Ontario Eco fees on electronics, tires headed for the bin

It'll just be included in price so you don't see it since they're shifting the cost of recovery and recycling to manufactures instead of consumers.. but samething..costs get passed on

GrandePike wrote: ↑they're shifting the cost of recovery and recycling to manufactures instead of consumers.. but something..costs get passed on

Which is good because:

“You have to design it now to reuse it or recover it because you’re responsible for the end-of-life costs.”

and bad news for junk manufacturer companies like Curtis/Proscan.

I hate not being told how much I'm paying...they can hide numbers to make them work in their favor.

How much taxes/duty do you pay on a $25 bottle of wine? Nobody knows off the top of their heads. How much taxes are you paying on 1 liter. of gas? 90% of people will tell you HST and have no idea about the 10 cent hidden excise tax, carbon tax or transit tax in some places.

That's also why they're making airlines do the same, to hide how much they're really taking when they put their hands in your pocket...they use the excuse the customers want that which is total BS, I want to know who gets what piece of the pie. This is done to hide things from the idiots and God knows there are plenty of them walking around.

All I want is the total amount that I have to shell out to take something home. They can hide all they want as long as I'm not told to pay x amount in additional fees and 13% tax on top of everything. Consumer cost of an item should include all fees and taxes that apply. I don't see the upside of me having to calculate fees and tax on advertised pricing in order to decide whether it's too much more me to spend.

It's all fine to me. Honestly, I'd be happy if we just transitioned to the EU system and had all the taxes included in the price (with pre-tax prices available if you want to see how much tax you're paying.) You're paying it either way, but at least with a tax-included model you can more easily budget and compare prices.

ThermKitty wrote: ↑It's all fine to me. Honestly, I'd be happy if we just transitioned to the EU system and had all the taxes included in the price (with pre-tax prices available if you want to see how much tax you're paying.) You're paying it either way, but at least with a tax-included model you can more easily budget and compare prices.

I agree. However, Woolco tried this with the GST back in the day and looked what happened to them. It would only work if all retailers would follow. I would love to see this implemented.

If this initiative will contribute to have five more salaries to pay five people, I salute it. If not, it's just another modificationless change.

I think its better to have it within the price. I understand seeing a breakdown, but HST is easy to calculate. Leave everything else out of it and marketers can advertise base prices which could be less than half the final price.

It's better to be included in the price. When fees are separated out as taxes, there is ZERO motivation for retailers or manufacturers to try to increase efficiencies to lower said fees. When they are integrated, competition will do this.

from what date is it going to be in force?

I gonna wait to buy a new TV

Those taxes are a rip off. We already pay in our income taxes to make the country more green, no way we should be paying more. Should they use the sales tax to make it green then. Or ship those useful devices to a 3rd world country so they can use it. Or pay the fees once u disregard the item and nit when you buy it, so you can put it in your enemy s backyard.

transitguy1 wrote: ↑from what date is it going to be in force?

I gonna wait to buy a new TV

From how preliminary the reports are and the time that it would take to get a framework in place, I'd bet Jan 1, 2017 or later, not anytime soon.