Dyson Refurbished vacuums from $139

Bagless vacuums are very bad compared to bagged ones.

I cannot in good conscious recommend a Dyson bagless vacuum or stand-by while people consider buying them.

Don't expect to do any heavy duty work with these.

CaptainSnake wrote: ↑ Bagless vacuums are very bad compared to bagged ones.

I cannot in good conscious recommend a Dyson bagless vacuum or stand-by while people consider buying them.

Don't expect to do any heavy duty work with these.

Pros and cons for bagless vs bagged?

CaptainSnake wrote: ↑ Bagless vacuums are very bad compared to bagged ones.

I cannot in good conscious recommend a Dyson bagless vacuum or stand-by while people consider buying them.

Don't expect to do any heavy duty work with these.

damn i was gonna buy a v6 for the shop..

CaptainSnake wrote: ↑Bagless vacuums are very bad compared to bagged ones.

I cannot in good conscious recommend a Dyson bagless vacuum or stand-by while people consider buying them.

Don't expect to do any heavy duty work with these.

That's curious. I don't like Dyson's since mine have been nothing but trouble (small ball + x3 Stick ones). But I'm curious why you dislike bagless units so much? Ive never owned a bagged vacuum from my central vac to shop shop vac?

CaptainSnake wrote: ↑ Bagless vacuums are very bad compared to bagged ones.

I cannot in good conscious recommend a Dyson bagless vacuum or stand-by while people consider buying them.

Don't expect to do any heavy duty work with these.

They do have a small canister (the handheld ones) but are only good as an expensive dust buster replacement (I do own one, of the small handheld models from an ebay deal at $100 back when they had the 20% off coupons, it's good for small messes but not much else) I do like the ball vacuum and find it's fantastic for everything else but I wouldn't use it as a shop vac.

CaptainSnake wrote: ↑ Bagless vacuums are very bad compared to bagged ones.

I cannot in good conscious recommend a Dyson bagless vacuum or stand-by while people consider buying them.

Don't expect to do any heavy duty work with these.

I've used Dysons for 10 years, and I haven't found anything else that is such a pleasure to use. There is nothing else I would rather use.

theflyingsquirrel wrote: ↑ Pros and cons for bagless vs bagged?

I got a bagged one after reading this:
https://amp.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/ ... th_a_very/

I'm not an expert on vacuums but there was a reddit AMA of someone who was.

You can find it here: https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/ ... _ive_lost/

I removed all the carpet in my house so I can use robot vacuums. Best decision ever.

How reputable is Openbox.ca?

CaptainSnake wrote: ↑ Bagless vacuums are very bad compared to bagged ones.

I cannot in good conscious recommend a Dyson bagless vacuum or stand-by while people consider buying them.

Don't expect to do any heavy duty work with these.

Dyson vacuums are great for regular home use, so efficient the filter almost never needs cleaning, and great suction.

I'm guessing most people won't use a Dyson when they're doing construction work cleanup, or they should not like you said but I would not call them bad ...

Most people who say that have never tried a Dyson and because of the price they're haters

CaptainSnake wrote: ↑ Bagless vacuums are very bad compared to bagged ones.

I cannot in good conscious recommend a Dyson bagless vacuum or stand-by while people consider buying them.

Don't expect to do any heavy duty work with these.

While this is true, if all things equal bagged is always going to be superior to bagless. For handheld vacuum you are never going to get a bagged one. Dyson still made the best handheld vacuum as far as I know.

theflyingsquirrel wrote: ↑ Pros and cons for bagless vs bagged?

Bagless Pro

• Pack more dirt because bag can provide higher pressure. Less emptying the vacuum required, I would say it is about 1/5 less, YMMY depends on the type of dirt you suck up.
• Allow the motor to be much more powerful.
• Can pick up much smaller dirt.

Bagless con

• Cost. Which can run you close to a hundred of dollar per year, if you have a massive house you might need to change filter / bag every other month.

User131439 wrote: ↑ That's curious. I don't like Dyson's since mine have been nothing but trouble (small ball + x3 Stick ones). But I'm curious why you dislike bagless units so much? Ive never owned a bagged vacuum from my central vac to shop shop vac?

Central Vac to Shop Vac still has a huge filter. They are able to be efficiency without a bag because of their massive size to allow the air flow to do the job. (Still not as good as bagged mind you) but in a compact vacuum they don't have such space to allow that without a bag.

escape1975 wrote: ↑ Dyson vacuums are great for regular home use, so efficient the filter almost never needs cleaning, and great suction.

I'm guessing most people won't use a Dyson when they're doing construction work cleanup, or they should not like you said but I would not call them bad ...

Dyson works *fine* for their purpose. Vacuuming non-carpet places. Or people who are not picky about quality (like when they don't have allergy issue, etc)

For carpet there is no comparison. Something like a Miele will beat a Dyson at any price point when it come to canister style.

Most people who say that have never tried a Dyson and because of the price they're haters

Most certainly not me. I tried both. Couldn't imagine dealing with Dyson. Miele are *more* expensive than Dyson. By the way. If someone prefer Miele there's no way they dislike Dyson because of price.

You tell how good quality Dyson are by looking at how many refurbish offers there are around. If they are good where do people get all these refurbish unit?

Sejad wrote: ↑ This openbox website doesn’t do shipping to Ontario?

Also, never heard of this site?

Q: This openbox website doesn’t do shipping to Ontario?
A: No. I added a vacuum to the cart and started to check out, and was able to select any province, so it would seem they do ship to Ontario.

Q: Also, never heard of this site?
A: Yes. (I've never.)

CaptainSnake wrote: ↑ Bagless vacuums are very bad compared to bagged ones.

I cannot in good conscious recommend a Dyson bagless vacuum or stand-by while people consider buying them.

Don't expect to do any heavy duty work with these.

1: That's an extreme exaggeration. There are bad bagless vacuums that leak lots of dust back into the room, but there are also very good ones with HEPA filtration and very good sealing. And there are bad bagged vacuums as well as good ones.

2: I understand why your prejudice won't let you recommend a Dyson, but if you think it's in good *conscience* to stand in the way of someone else's decision to buy one, I think you'll find that most will disagree.

3: Why would anyone expect to do any heavy-duty work with a house vacuum? Do you use your bagged house vacuum as a shop vac?

I remember reading about an exhaustive vacuum test done by Consumer Reports and ALL the bagged vacuums outperformed the bagless ones, including Dyson.
So not only it doesn't perform as well, they are expensive.

My sister in law had one and it broke at the handle, I can't beleive how it's cheaply made, very poor construction, especially for a vacuum that expensive.

+1 robot vacuum and get a cheapo for spot cleanups.
No way I'm paying $400 and having to operate it myself, for that amount of money, I can have my robot slave do it for me.

My only complain is not getting one sooner!

Who like to do dishes? Wash clothes manually? Anyone that says it's therapeutic should find another hobby lol

Cheaper than the Dyson refurbished ebay store, thanks OP.

Couldnt pay me to deal with a bagged vacuum over a dyson stick vac for quick cleanups!

Repo600 wrote: ↑ I got a bagged one after reading this:
https://amp.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/ ... th_a_very/

CaptainSnake wrote: ↑ I'm not an expert on vacuums but there was a reddit AMA of someone who was.

You can find it here: https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/ ... _ive_lost/

OK, so repair technicians prefer bagged to bagless. They also prefer top-load washing machines to front-load for the same reasons: simpler mechanisms means fewer repairs. It's an obvious preference from the viewpoint of someone who has to work on them. The fact remains that front-load washers wash better and wear/damage clothing and bedding less. As a consumer, I'm much more concerned with the care and longevity of my clothing and bedding than with having a slightly lower chance of having a washing machine repair bill. And I'm more interested in the convenience of a bagless vacuum, and in not having to buy bags, and in not adding needless bags to landfill, than in having a slightly lower chance of having to repair my vacuum cleaner. And my refurbished Dyson has been going strong for about seven years now, with the only issue being the battery losing its charge too fast now because it's that old. So my next vacuum cleaner will be a plug-in bagless, either a Dyson or a Shark.

OakAged wrote: ↑ OK, so repair technicians prefer bagged to bagless. They also prefer top-load washing machines to front-load for the same reasons: simpler mechanisms means fewer repairs. It's an obvious preference from the viewpoint of someone who has to work on them. The fact remains that front-load washers wash better and wear/damage clothing and bedding less. As a consumer, I'm much more concerned with the care and longevity of my clothing and bedding than with having a slightly lower chance of having a washing machine repair bill. And I'm more interested in the convenience of a bagless vacuum, and in not having to buy bags, and in not adding needless bags to landfill, than in having a slightly lower chance of having to repair my vacuum cleaner. And my refurbished Dyson has been going strong for about seven years now, with the only issue being the battery losing its charge too fast now because it's that old. So my next vacuum cleaner will be a plug-in bagless, either a Dyson or a Shark.

Someone will have to do the math on the carbon footprint of a broken vacuum vs paper bags.
If bagless ends up breaking more often and can't be repaired, it will end up at the landfill.

My Shopvac can be run without a bag but I'll rather pay for bags than deal with clean up.

Now my Xiaomi robot vacuum and my Ryobi stick vac are bagless but thanks to the Shopvac, clean up is a breeze.

Does anyone know what the "b" in the model numbers means?