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Petition - Stop OEB hydro rate hikes on Condos

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Petition - Stop OEB hydro rate hikes on Condos

Hello all, thought I'd post this here as there's likely a lot of forum members who are owners of condos with shared facilities (shared between multiple buildings). Starting Nov 1st, there will be a over 30% increase to your hydro bill (and thus eventually maintenance fees) as the OEB rebate will no longer apply.

Please read the following petition and sign if you agree.

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There is no rate increase from OEB, your title is misleading. Reading your petition, you talk about something totally different - Utility company will change the designation of shared areas and condo board will lose current rebate. And this is a specific situation for every condo, you can't put everyone in the same hat...
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Isostar wrote: There is no rate increase from OEB, your title is misleading. Reading your petition, you talk about something totally different - Utility company will change the designation of shared areas and condo board will lose current rebate. And this is a specific situation for every condo, you can't put everyone in the same hat...
Not misleading at all. The utility companies are changing designations because of an OEB decision last year that specifically excludes common areas of certain buildings.

See below article for details:

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Can you please explain to me how Common areas and shared facilities are extensions of your homes?
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ssj4_ootaku1 wrote: OP

Can you please explain to me how Common areas and shared facilities are extensions of your homes?
I don't think that's even the question here. The question is why are common areas and shared facilities of some condo buildings eligible for the rebate but not others?

This is a question of basic fairness and an oversight by the OEB at best.
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Darklightning wrote: I don't think that's even the question here. The question is why are common areas and shared facilities of some condo buildings eligible for the rebate but not others?

This is a question of basic fairness and an oversight by the OEB at best.
You're right, they should be forcing all condos to meter their shared areas separately. This way they can claw back the rebate from shared areas entirely.
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pizzaclown wrote: You're right, they should be forcing all condos to meter their shared areas separately. This way they can claw back the rebate from shared areas entirely.
That makes no sense. From the article, ".......utility Companies have deemed the electricity consumed in these spaces to be commercial and therefore no longer eligible to receive the Ontario Electricity Rebate (OER)."

In what sense are the central HVAC systems or elevators of a condo building "commercial"?
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Darklightning wrote: That makes no sense. From the article, ".......utility Companies have deemed the electricity consumed in these spaces to be commercial and therefore no longer eligible to receive the Ontario Electricity Rebate (OER)."

In what sense are the central HVAC systems or elevators of a condo building "commercial"?
In what sense are a condo's gym, pool, parking garage, and lighting/heating/cooling in common areas not commercial? They're not extensions of your private residence, they're perks that you pay into a corporation to maintain and solely exist for the benefit of a private community.
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pizzaclown wrote: In what sense are a condo's gym, pool, parking garage, and lighting/heating/cooling in common areas not commercial? They're not extensions of your private residence, they're perks that you pay into a corporation to maintain and solely exist for the benefit of a private community.
So if you were living in a detached home and you had a pool or a parking garage, would that be a commercial use?

They ARE extensions of a private residence in so far as only residents are allowed to use them. If a Condo Corp. turns their gym into a GoodLife, that's a different story.
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pizzaclown wrote: In what sense are a condo's gym, pool, parking garage, and lighting/heating/cooling in common areas not commercial? They're not extensions of your private residence, they're perks that you pay into a corporation to maintain and solely exist for the benefit of a private community.
A condo corporation is not a business. It is a group of people who get together and pool their resources to share a common residence, part of which are the gym and pool and HVAC and other facilities. It is a commune inside a building.

It would be crazy to charge them "commercial" hydro rates as if they were operating a for profit business.

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