Is a philosophy degree a waste like everyone says?
Also, why would a person want to take a philosophy degree if its truly useless?
My cousin wants to take it and just want to get university graduates/students opinions
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thanks. i understand exactly what you're saying. you are correct, and a lot of people don't understand it, but it is extremely dangerous... cognitive dissidence is a scary thing. i try to be careful with it. its more of a hobby for me than anything. for whatever reason i like it.needybot wrote: ↑I don't have a philosophy degree but I've been studying philosophy as a hobby for nearly 30 years. For what it's worth...
As you wisely note, philosophy degrees usually don't map well to many job skills. A friend of a friend of mine received his degree in philosophy and he's a professional salesman today. This is probably why a common mistake some that haven't studied philosophy make is viewing it as a sort of ideology. I had a friend that once even claimed philosophy was "mental masturbation". While some make nonsense claims that you can't know anything (a self-contradictory statement) studying philosophy *does* allow someone to peel a few layers away from what most claim as reality. This is a rational consquence of studying what we claim as knowledge, existence, ethics, and even language itself.
There are negatives too though.
While there are "a ha" moments there is no ultimate enlightenment like say some religions claim. It's like studying any trade. You will go to your grave learning new stuff. Constant revision. You can acquire concrete pieces of knowledge but you also realize some questions are beyond our capacity as humans to resolve conclusively. Plato's Allegory of the Cave could possibly be applied recursively... ad infinitum. Whose to say that Neo taking the red pill was nothing more than one more simulation or that we ourselves are not part of a simulation? Studying philosophy doesn't provide one omnipotence. This is self-evident by the contradictions between outlooks of sundry philosophers over the centuries. It also doesn't necessarily mean you will be a happier person. Many that have studied philosophy have emotional breakdowns (IMO due to cognitive dissonance).
This variation in outcome is probably what gives modern philosophy the unfair pseudo-science moniker in some corners but the purpose of studying philosophy isn't to teach someone how to live or to give someone job skills. It just provides some cognition tools. How you apply what you learn results in "a" philosophy... which is different than the study of philosophy itself.
Although they might not vocalize it in this manner everyone has a philosophical outlook whether they study philosophy or not (even sophistry would qualify) The difference is without studying philosophy their outlook is usually based on emotional whims and/or mimicking behaviors of those around them. This is precisely why those born to a family or society that supports x ideological outlook tend to follow the same beliefs. (confirmation bias is a very real world effect)
The bottom line is you need to ask yourself what you want out of life. If its just about having nice stuff... forget about philosophy. It's a time consumer that detracts from the practical side of things. Very successful people can, and do, go their whole lives without studying philosophy. Philosophers are not necessarily right and adopting an existing philosophy isn't necessarily wrong. Someone can drive a car their entire lives without ever investigating it's innards.
If you are curious about the universe though... whether you get a degree or not... I highly recommend studying philosophy as a lifelong learning activity (along with some physics and math). We don't have to be professional philosophers, mathematicians, physicists, etc... to indulge our curiosity.
(Disclaimer. Although this rebuttal may sound like I'm telling you what to do, I wish to make clear I'm not advising you follow in my footsteps. I believe in knowledge but I believe uncertainty also exists. And I'm far more uncertain about aspects of reality today than I was before I began studying philosophy. These are just my views at this moment and I have observed some of them evolve with time so I might argue differently in the future)
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ok thanksTyphoonz wrote: ↑You've come to the wrong place to ask. People on RFD think engineering or business degrees are the only way to go. Don't view university as a place to go to line you up with a job, that's what college is for. You go to university to study a subject you're passionate about. At the end, you'll have developed a skill set that is up to you to apply to an area you see yourself working in.
Yes, job prospects for arts degrees suck, but I wouldn't let that stop you if philosophy is something you really enjoy. Also, comparing arts degrees to ebgineerig or business degrees are like comparin apples to oranges. It is an unfair comparison. Things will sort themselves out when you're done if you're truly passionate about it. I have two degrees and can say I learned far more in my arts degree than in my business degree.
I'm completing my masters now and am making more money doing that than if I was working full-time like many of those I graduated with. If academia is something that interests someone, there's definitely lots of funding available there if your have the right research interests and grades.
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Corner3 wrote: ↑He has a philosophy degree. Seems to do pretty well for himself. So it's possible.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinkan?a ... n%20kan%20
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You've confused the issues.
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