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Play it safe (Toyota, Honda) or not (Volvo, MB) cross-over?

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Play it safe (Toyota, Honda) or not (Volvo, MB) cross-over?

I've driven Toyotas and Hondas all my life and currently looking to upgrade from my 2012 Rav4. Nothing is mechanically wrong with it. Just looking from something newer.

I can play it safe and get another Rav4 but the one I like is a 2021 Hybrid XSE which is close to 50K all in. I can also get a CRV. However, I really like the look of the Volvo XC60s. I can probably get one that's two/three years old for around $50K. I'm also looking at the MB GLB250 which looks great for my family. That would also run me around $50 for a one year old model.

Any thoughts? Basically looking for a smallish SUV that will fit nicely in the garage. Should I play it safe or throw my hat in the luxury car ring?
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$50k for a Rav4???? Insanity!!!
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I know eh? It's the Hybrid XSE+tech package. Blew my mind....
EP32k2 wrote: $50k for a Rav4???? Insanity!!!
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ironman77 wrote: I know eh? It's the Hybrid XSE+tech package. Blew my mind....
so not worth it. Sorry, but that's crazy money for a crossover that doesn't drive great with mediocre performance. I just don't get how people can justify buying these. Test drive the Volvo and Merc if you haven't. I just can't fathom paying that much for a Japanese car LOL, but that's just me.
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you should get a Volkswagen then!!!


Jk - but honestly, some of the VWs have very nice driving feels..................I've driven Hondas, Acuras, Toyotas & VW sedans and feel that VW sedans have the best driving experience. Don't know about SUVs though....

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You can go luxury and still play it safe going Lexus and Acura.

With a Volvo and MB, while they can still be very reliable, your day-to-day maintenance will still cost more than the Toyota/Lexus/Honda/Acura. So you weigh out what matters to you the most.
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Isn't Volvo literally one of the safest if not the safest car brand out there?
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Sepiraph wrote: Isn't Volvo literally one of the safest if not the safest car brand out there?
Yes! IMO I'd pick Volvo if I'm looking to upgrade from toyota/honda. Safe, reliable, way better features bang for buck compared with Jap cars.
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thephenom wrote: You can go luxury and still play it safe going Lexus and Acura.

With a Volvo and MB, while they can still be very reliable, your day-to-day maintenance will still cost more than the Toyota/Lexus/Honda/Acura. So you weigh out what matters to you the most.
Acura is not luxury. Pseudo luxury maybe and they are not reliable as people love to perceive. Honda is crap now.
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I meant play it safe from a reliability and cost of repairs point of view. Sorry for the confusion.
Sepiraph wrote: Isn't Volvo literally one of the safest if not the safest car brand out there?
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I'd probably put my name on the rav4 prime waitlist, if there was no hurry
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ironman77 wrote: I meant play it safe from a reliability and cost of repairs point of view. Sorry for the confusion.
Yea I knew what you meant but thought it was funny to point out. :)
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EP32k2 wrote: Acura is not luxury. Pseudo luxury maybe and they are not reliable as people love to perceive. Honda is crap now.
@EP32k2 is right.

Acura = premium, Lexus/MB/BMW/Volvo = luxury.
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I suppose like many I've only had experience w Japanese and German offerings. I'm intrigued by Volvo also, quite exotic (to me) and they seem pretty solid/safe/good rep. MB is relatively ho-hum imho.

YOLO and I don't think you'd be going so 'risky' like you're doing bungee-jumping, it's a Volvo, not like you're buying a Lada haha. Go for it!
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tranquility922 wrote: YOLO and I don't think you'd be going so 'risky' like you're doing bungee-jumping, it's a Volvo, not like you're buying a Lada haha. Go for it!
Risky is only if he thinks owning MB/Volvo for 8 years like his last RAV4 and have the same operating cost.
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There are so many Highlanders/RAV4s and Pilot/CRVs on the road because ... All roads lead to Toyota / Honda.

Same with Camry/Corolla and Accord/ Civic. People look at the prices, the specs, the value, and we end up with Toyota / Honda.

As already said above.... If you keep a Volvo for 8 years, it's going to be more expensive than a Toyota.

So go and buy a Mazda.
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EP32k2 wrote: so not worth it. Sorry, but that's crazy money for a crossover that doesn't drive great with mediocre performance. I just don't get how people can justify buying these. Test drive the Volvo and Merc if you haven't. I just can't fathom paying that much for a Japanese car LOL, but that's just me.
Welcome to the land of crossovers, overcharge everyone and hope all people do is focus on monthly payments. The freaking Chevy Trax Premier(the trim is finally gone) that I was using for a while as the errand car was a $30K car...even though the driving experience was worse than a cheap Chevy Spark. The Mazda 6 I'm currently using is actually cheaper, more roomy, faster, more fuel efficient, more comfortable and much better equipped than that $30K Trax. Blows my mind how bad a $30K CUV is today, rewind even 15 years ago and you got at minimum something decent for that amount of money.
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JeganV wrote: Welcome to the land of crossovers, overcharge everyone and hope all people do is focus on monthly payments. The freaking Chevy Trax Premier(the trim is finally gone) that I was using for a while as the errand car was a $30K car...even though the driving experience was worse than a cheap Chevy Spark. The Mazda 6 I'm currently using is actually cheaper, more roomy, faster, more fuel efficient, more comfortable and much better equipped than that $30K Trax. Blows my mind how bad a $30K CUV is today, rewind even 15 years ago and you got at minimum something decent for that amount of money.
Yup manufacturers are literally cashing out on these stupid crossovers. Shitty drivetrain, poor handling, and make sure it’s “practical” and people will buy it. I can’t believe some of the garbage that people are actually buying. Like the Venue. Seriously WTF is that shit.
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