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Dec 14th, 2015 10:51 am
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Dec 14th, 2015 8:32 pm
Why wouldn't they just hire you instead instead of also paying money for the 'consulting business' that is nothing without you anyway? Doesn't make sense to me unless you are telling them you won't work for them unless they buy your business. However, why not then just charge the difference as an extra consulting fee? But, hey, if you can get the extra $ and it's capital gain instead of income to you then great. If I was the buyer I sure wouldn't enter into this kind of deal as there is no guarantee that you will work for them for x years and by paying you more I can pay you over time. If you don't keep working fo them they can't force you to continue but can only sue you, then need to win judgement, pay the lawyers, not get all their legal fees, back, etc then collect, etc. I don't get it.ViRedFlag wrote: ↑One company is consider buying consulting business so they can get my expertise - for example they will buy business if I will commit x years working for them on full time basis - so really they are buying my expertise that I developed while working as consultant. Is that reasonable?
Dec 14th, 2015 10:36 pm
Dec 15th, 2015 8:52 am
Doesn't even make sense either way from a tax point of viewViRedFlag wrote: ↑First of all thank you very much for advice. To add a bit more - my expertise is critical to this other company, so they want me. But if I will do consulting much longer for them, there is possibility that I will become "Personal Service Business", so I would rather move on or they buy my company and I stay. Hopefully this now makes more sense.
If this would go ahead - I am looking if there is any advantage to me from "Canada Capital Gain exemption".
Dec 15th, 2015 10:51 am
Dec 15th, 2015 2:24 pm
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Dec 15th, 2015 3:57 pm
ViRedFlag wrote: ↑Thank you - I just logged in to CRA website and checked my carryover amounts. I had investment losses for 3 years long ago, but for last 5 years it is all cap gains and I have no "unapplied net loss". Anyway my losses were few thousands in all. But cap gain exemption is hundred of thousands..., so it should not be big deal.
Dec 15th, 2015 11:02 pm
Dec 15th, 2015 11:41 pm
I wonder too, but that is not the OP's question. Nevertheless the OP has inferred that buying his company might be the only way he would end up working for the buyer. The buyer simply paying more for his services is something I mentioned before as an alternative but the OP apparently has figured out he will pay less tax by having the extra remuneration come to him in the form of the purchase of his company. As a buyer, if I really wanted the OP, I would just up his consulting fee even more to match the after tax benefit the OP would get from a company purchase because you're right, why bother ending up with some worthless shell corporation that might have some skeltons in the closet. However, who knows, the buyer may not have the bargaining power required and end up having to go for the OP's company purchase + consulting contract proposal.Just Confused wrote: ↑All of this discussion still doesn't answer the question "What is in it for the buyer?" If I want your expertise, then I would just buy you (i.e. hire you as an employee or contract you). What possible reason would I have for buying a worthless shell corporation from you as well? Trying to spin an advantage to yourself by calling some of the payment as capital gains instead of contract or employment income is creating an elaborate dodgy transaction in hopes you might save some tax. Good for you, if you can convince the buyer to participate.
Dec 19th, 2015 10:59 pm
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