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Please donate/provide your N95 masks - IMPORTANT

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Please donate/provide your N95 masks - IMPORTANT

Hi everyone, I am posting this thread as a concerned healthcare provider and a fellow RFDer. My previous thread imploring help from the community was moved to a thread that was asking to buy N95s. I'm hoping that the moderators will allow this thread to stay the way it is.

I am a surgeon working in the Halton region. As you know, N95 masks are crucial for front line health workers when we are treating patients with presumed or confirmed COVID. Our healthcare system is extremely strained when it comes to providing personal protective equipment to our doctors and nurses. We have been asked to reuse our supplies of N95 which obviously poses a huge health risk to everyone involved. I know RFDers must have personal stashes of N95 masks at home. Remember, these masks are not meant for the average person to avoid catching COVID. Hand hygiene is much more effective. The likelihood of the average person to come into contact with high viral load when things like social distancing is practiced is extremely low. However, when a doctor is coming face to face with someone extremely sick with COVID or a surgery is done on a patient with COVID the viral load within the operating room is extremely high.

Let me repeat. YOU do not need N95s to protect yourselves. We, as healthcare workers, ABSOLUTELY NEED THEM for every patient we see.

Therefore I am calling on the RFD community to help out. If you are in any way interested in donating your own stash of N95s to the various hospitals please let me know via PMs or just replying to this thread. Please state the size of your mask and how many you have. If the response is strong, I will mobilize our hospital resources to try and obtain these N95 masks from you.

Your help and donation is greatly appreciated and please stay safe.
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Mods, this is a chance for crediting yourselves on good calls. Shall you guys put this post as a sticky at the top?Electric Light Bulb
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djmackj wrote: Remember, these masks are not meant for the average person to avoid catching COVID. Hand hygiene is much more effective. The likelihood of the average person to come into contact with high viral load when things like social distancing is practiced is extremely low.

Let me repeat. YOU do not need N95s to protect yourselves. We, as healthcare workers, ABSOLUTELY NEED THEM for every patient we see.
disingenuous...
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cybercavalier wrote: Mods, this is a chance for crediting yourselves on good calls. Shall you guys put this post as a sticky at the top?Electric Light Bulb
Thank you! That would be appreciated.
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anabeces wrote: disingenuous...
I've seen your posts on other threads. If you want to wear a surgical mask, go ahead. That's what everyone in Korea does and I agree it's a good deterrent. N95 masks need to be properly fit tested and need to form a perfect seal around the face to work. They are vital for health care workers that are literally face to face with positive COVID patients. We DO have a mask shortage. I am NOT spreading anti-mask propaganda.

We are sourcing N95s locally anywhere we can. If Home Depot, Walmart, Canadian Tire have them, we would be getting it from them. Except people have hoarded them and are not using them appropriately. I've managed to get 20 N95s from a local auto detailer. We are doing everything we can. If you don't think front line workers should have the priority on N95s, then there's something wrong with you.
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+1 to sticky this thread.
Masks can reduce spread of COVID-19 by 83.3% and keep economy open, wear one!
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+1 to sticky, and for mods not to move thread.
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Might also be effective to ask organizations like the Jack Ma Foundation and Huawei. Those organizations have donated tons of PPE to Europe.
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anabeces wrote: disingenuous...
Very selfish to say that. If medical professionals don't get enough N95 masks, then we will ALL be in big trouble. Using them for personal use is not necessary.

The public doesn't need N95 masks. At the same time, masks (not N95) are helpful, but not for the reasons you think. Wearing a mask means you are not going to accidentally touch you face. How many times do we all touch our faces out of habit? So a mask (plus sunglasses, glasses, googles) do help but not because they filter. They help stop you from touching your nose/mouth out of habit. But the public does not need N95 masks.
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djmackj wrote: I am a surgeon working in the Halton region. As you know, N95 masks are crucial for front line health workers when we are treating patients with presumed or confirmed COVID.
Your help and donation is greatly appreciated and please stay safe.
Surgeon djmackj, I would like to suggest you the following sentence,
"Please encourage the efforts for factories in the Golden Horseshoe shall manufacture mask and PPEs for local use, after this climax of dealing with COVID patients wanes."
Assuming disposable masks and PPEs can be made out of fresh, recyclable, or recycled paper and pulp product, another location can be Thunder Bay to more or less revitalize somewhat the paper and pulp industries. In other words, factories in Northern Ontario and in the Golden Horseshoe supply PPEs locally.
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They should be making a movie after this is all finished.."The story of 16 tonnes".
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cybercavalier wrote: Surgeon djmackj, I would like to suggest you the following sentence,
"Please encourage the efforts for factories in the Golden Horseshoe shall manufacture mask and PPEs for local use, after this climax of dealing with COVID patients wanes."
Assuming disposable masks and PPEs can be made out of fresh, recyclable, or recycled paper and pulp product, another location can be Thunder Bay to more or less revitalize somewhat the paper and pulp industries. In other words, factories in Northern Ontario and in the Golden Horseshoe supply PPEs locally.
I appreciate the comment. I agree that we should be making PPEs locally. I don't know why everything has to be made overseas. I understand cheap labour but in a time of crisis it should be all hands on deck. I personally don't know how N95 masks are made but I imagine that China can't be the only place it can be manufactured. There's a connection I have in China whom I've been begging for some masks and they're telling me all N95s in bulk shipments are being seized at the Chinese border. It really is a depressing situation.
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I thought that since this virus is commonly spread through droplets. Are n95 really more protective with the cost to performance then say a regular masks with some sort of fluid protection. Thats why they have plastic face shields on during contact with corvid-19 patients in front of whatever masks right?
multimut wrote: Very selfish to say that. If medical professionals don't get enough N95 masks, then we will ALL be in big trouble. Using them for personal use is not necessary.

The public doesn't need N95 masks. At the same time, masks (not N95) are helpful, but not for the reasons you think. Wearing a mask means you are not going to accidentally touch you face. How many times do we all touch our faces out of habit? So a mask (plus sunglasses, glasses, googles) do help but not because they filter. They help stop you from touching your nose/mouth out of habit. But the public does not need N95 masks.
So why sell n95 masks to the public if they are not needed :/

I seen countless people still touch there face + mask when going around which isn't best practice since the mask could have containments. An person was being interview and he touched his mask 3 times to manipulate it on his face. The mask is best used for those who are sick so they don't spread there virus's and germs to others by coughing or sneezing without some sort of barrier in front of there face.
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Most larger Chinese supermarkets seem to have a good supply.
djmackj wrote: I've seen your posts on other threads. If you want to wear a surgical mask, go ahead. That's what everyone in Korea does and I agree it's a good deterrent. N95 masks need to be properly fit tested and need to form a perfect seal around the face to work. They are vital for health care workers that are literally face to face with positive COVID patients. We DO have a mask shortage. I am NOT spreading anti-mask propaganda.

We are sourcing N95s locally anywhere we can. If Home Depot, Walmart, Canadian Tire have them, we would be getting it from them. Except people have hoarded them and are not using them appropriately. I've managed to get 20 N95s from a local auto detailer. We are doing everything we can. If you don't think front line workers should have the priority on N95s, then there's something wrong with you.
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Chickennbeans wrote: Most larger Chinese supermarkets seem to have a good supply.
LOL, not N95's. Basic 1-2 ply crappy masks they have. Bestco gives them to every1 who walks into the stores. They are not even the grade of hosp. surgical masks let alone N95's. They are selling these crappy masks for $50, 50 pack. I'm sure in non-virus conditions they go for $10 a box. *welp*
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