Plumbing help - New drain leaks from slip nut connecting brass to PVC - help

Jan 3rd, 2020 2:40 pm

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theodigital [OP]: Newbie; Mar 8, 2016; 57 posts; 9 upvotes

Jan 3rd, 2020 2:40 pm

Plumbing help - New drain leaks from slip nut connecting brass to PVC - help

Hey guys,

I followed all the instructions, watched all the videos, but my lack of plumbing skills are apparent. I installed a new drain assembly in my kitchen sink. When I tested it I was so happy no leaks! Until I filled the basin, removed the stopper and water came from the slip nut area. The leak is in the location circled in the picture. Only happens when the tub is full and runs out.

Do I need a new slip nut? A washer (note there is no washer in the slip nut, never was)? Do you see anything wrong with my install? If you think I need new parts could you name them for me so I can get the right thing from the store (size too).

Thanks in advance for your guidance everyone.

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Jan 3rd, 2020 2:42 pm

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theodigital [OP]: Newbie; Mar 8, 2016; 57 posts; 9 upvotes

Jan 3rd, 2020 2:42 pm

Here is the full view.

Jan 3rd, 2020 2:48 pm

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Red_Army: Deal Fanatic; Oct 15, 2007; 5275 posts; 2714 upvotes

Jan 3rd, 2020 2:48 pm

The main thing I see wrong is that you cannot install a tee wye on its back in a drainage system.

The leak could be a few things, the trap adapter but/ washer or the threads on the trap adapter could be cracked from over tightening. The type of adapter used here (the white piece) has the Poly flanged washer built into the nut

Everything has been said before, but since nobody listens we have to keep going back and beginning all over again. - Andre Gide

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Jan 3rd, 2020 3:10 pm

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theodigital [OP]: Newbie; Mar 8, 2016; 57 posts; 9 upvotes

Jan 3rd, 2020 3:10 pm

Thanks Red. I'll add it to the list of things the idiot homeowner before me did wrong. Sigh...

I'm thinking the trap adapter may be the culprit as I moved it to the other side of the sink and it leaked there too...

I'll go buy another trap adapter (the white piece) and try that - You think I should get a full new hub (black) or just the slip joint (white)

Forgive my not knowing what things are called.

Jan 3rd, 2020 4:26 pm

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Red_Army: Deal Fanatic; Oct 15, 2007; 5275 posts; 2714 upvotes

Jan 3rd, 2020 4:26 pm

theodigital wrote: ↑ Thanks Red. I'll add it to the list of things the idiot homeowner before me did wrong. Sigh...

I'm thinking the trap adapter may be the culprit as I moved it to the other side of the sink and it leaked there too...

I'll go buy another trap adapter (the white piece) and try that - You think I should get a full new hub (black) or just the slip joint (white)

Forgive my not knowing what things are called.

I would remove it an examine the threads. Over tightening these often results in a hair line split, especially at the seam

Everything has been said before, but since nobody listens we have to keep going back and beginning all over again. - Andre Gide

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Jan 3rd, 2020 6:32 pm

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WMPCOT: Deal Addict; Apr 26, 2013; 3773 posts; 3527 upvotes; Toronto

Jan 3rd, 2020 6:32 pm

I'm confused by your post, you say there was no washer what do you mean by this? There should be a gasket in there.

Jan 3rd, 2020 6:36 pm

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Red_Army: Deal Fanatic; Oct 15, 2007; 5275 posts; 2714 upvotes

Jan 3rd, 2020 6:36 pm

WMPCOT wrote: ↑ I'm confused by your post, you say there was no washer what do you mean by this? There should be a gasket in there.

It’s built into the nut

Everything has been said before, but since nobody listens we have to keep going back and beginning all over again. - Andre Gide

Jan 3rd, 2020 7:03 pm

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theodigital [OP]: Newbie; Mar 8, 2016; 57 posts; 9 upvotes

Jan 3rd, 2020 7:03 pm

I’ll take a picture.

When I saw some YouTube videos it seemed like there was a washer. When I look at the white piece doesn’t look like there is anything. But as Red said maybe it was overtightened. Either way I’ll just go buy a new couple of white pieces from HD.

Jan 3rd, 2020 7:18 pm

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Red_Army: Deal Fanatic; Oct 15, 2007; 5275 posts; 2714 upvotes

Jan 3rd, 2020 7:18 pm

theodigital wrote: ↑ I’ll take a picture.

When I saw some YouTube videos it seemed like there was a washer. When I look at the white piece doesn’t look like there is anything. But as Red said maybe it was overtightened. Either way I’ll just go buy a new couple of white pieces from HD.

If it was over tightened and the thread compromised you would have to replace the entire piece. Take it apart first and inspect

Everything has been said before, but since nobody listens we have to keep going back and beginning all over again. - Andre Gide

Jan 3rd, 2020 7:34 pm

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WMPCOT: Deal Addict; Apr 26, 2013; 3773 posts; 3527 upvotes; Toronto

Jan 3rd, 2020 7:34 pm

Red_Army wrote: ↑ It’s built into the nut

In the post they said there wasn't one there which is why I asked what they meant.

Jan 3rd, 2020 7:42 pm

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Red_Army: Deal Fanatic; Oct 15, 2007; 5275 posts; 2714 upvotes

Jan 3rd, 2020 7:42 pm

WMPCOT wrote: ↑ In the post they said there wasn't one there which is why I asked what they meant.

Thats because it’s built into the nut, I’ve explained this twice. An amateur such as the OP won’t recognize this at first glance

Everything has been said before, but since nobody listens we have to keep going back and beginning all over again. - Andre Gide

Jan 3rd, 2020 8:10 pm

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WMPCOT: Deal Addict; Apr 26, 2013; 3773 posts; 3527 upvotes; Toronto

Jan 3rd, 2020 8:10 pm

Red_Army wrote: ↑ Thats because it’s built into the nut, I’ve explained this twice. An amateur such as the OP won’t recognize this at first glance

Built in doesn't mean it isn't removable, perhaps during install the OP removed it or someone was messing with the pieces in store.

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Jan 3rd, 2020 8:15 pm

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Red_Army: Deal Fanatic; Oct 15, 2007; 5275 posts; 2714 upvotes

Jan 3rd, 2020 8:15 pm

WMPCOT wrote: ↑ Built in doesn't mean it isn't removable, perhaps during install the OP removed it or someone was messing with the pieces in store.

That’s exactly what it means

Everything has been said before, but since nobody listens we have to keep going back and beginning all over again. - Andre Gide

Jan 3rd, 2020 8:32 pm

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WMPCOT: Deal Addict; Apr 26, 2013; 3773 posts; 3527 upvotes; Toronto

Jan 3rd, 2020 8:32 pm

Red_Army wrote: ↑ That’s exactly what it means

I have a feeling we aren't talking about the same thing here. I'm talking about the reducing washer/slip nut washer between the drain pipes I do not think that the OP installed this.

Jan 3rd, 2020 8:37 pm

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Red_Army: Deal Fanatic; Oct 15, 2007; 5275 posts; 2714 upvotes

Jan 3rd, 2020 8:37 pm

WMPCOT wrote: ↑ I have a feeling we aren't talking about the same thing here. I'm talking about the reducing washer/slip nut washer between the drain pipes I do not think that the OP installed this.

If you’re referring to the tailpiece nut then you’re looking at the wrong spot. The leak is below the trap adapter nut at the thread

Everything has been said before, but since nobody listens we have to keep going back and beginning all over again. - Andre Gide

Jan 6th, 2020 1:45 pm

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theodigital [OP]: Newbie; Mar 8, 2016; 57 posts; 9 upvotes

Jan 6th, 2020 1:45 pm

I looked closely this weekend and saw the white piece - "trap adapter" slip nut has a horizontal crack. Bingo. Glad that was the issue. I'll go to HD and replace hopefully resolving everything.

Cheers!

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Mar 6th, 2020 1:53 pm

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Sebastrue12: Banned; Mar 5, 2020; 5 posts

Mar 6th, 2020 1:53 pm

I'm very happy for you, you're good that you still figured out what the problem was, although you claimed that you are a beginner. "I looked closely this weekend and saw the white piece - "trap adapter" slip nut has a horizontal crack. Bingo. Glad that was the issue."- I immediately thought about this as soon as I read your post and saw the photos. In principle, the problem is quite ok. But I had a nightmare at home about two weeks ago, I broke a pipe and had to call the service plumbers. Well, that they quickly fixed everything, and the stench was unreal.

Mar 6th, 2020 4:20 pm

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vkizzle: Deal Expert; Aug 22, 2011; 37042 posts; 23014 upvotes; Center of Universe

Mar 6th, 2020 4:20 pm

theodigital wrote: ↑ Here is the full view.

I noticed the water lines are looped, is that how they're supposed to be?
Mine are connected straight.

Mar 6th, 2020 7:29 pm

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MrFrugal1: Deal Addict; Jan 2, 2012; 4052 posts; 3097 upvotes; KINGSTON,ON

Mar 6th, 2020 7:29 pm

vkizzle wrote: ↑ I noticed the water lines are looped, is that how they're supposed to be?
Mine are connected straight.

The loops are inconsequential. The braided supplies are often looped to keep them out of the way, or to prevent strain by forcing them into a position that could cause kinks or stress on the connection.

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