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Portable Induction Hotplate (Single Burner)

I've been researching about portable INDUCTION cooktop (PIC), planning purchase next spring. It seems like there are others who are interested in same topic, hence start this thread with the following readings:

1. American review dated 7/2/2019 recommended Duxtop 9100MC (top choice, model no longer available) and IKEA Tillreda Portable Induction Cooktop (2nd choice). https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/revi ... n-cooktop/

2. 10-pages discussion on "[IKEA] Single Burner Induction Hotplate - $49.00" @ ikea-single-burner-induction-hotplate-49-00-2397401/

3. 3-pages discussion on "Induction vs conventional cooktop" (full size stove/top) - induction-vs-conventional-cooktop-2418517/

** Please include BRAND, MODEL #, YEAR OF PURCHASE and PRICE PAID in your comment **
I'll update post#1-5 on a continuous basis.

July 2, 2021 edit: - The Best Induction Cooktops @ https://www.redflagdeals.com/reviews/be ... -cooktops/
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Warnings:

PICs (portable Induction Cooktop) are sold in 1500W or 1800W
1500W @ 12V = 12.5 amps
1800W @ 12V = 15 amps

Buildings before 1980 should stay with PIC 1500W, else you'll pop the breaker/fuse
Buildings after 1995 should have 15 amps fuses (something about safer to use 80%)
New buildings are installed with 20 amps

I'm poor in electrical terms. When I can find the source of info, I'll give credit to the writer.
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1. Duxtop 9100MC 1800W (amazon dot com, US~$70+$35shipping++ @[aviador] )
=> possible alternative => Duxtop 8500ST 1800W - CA$79.99 ???
=> possible alternative => Duxtop 9600LS 1800W - CA$151.55 =>$99.99sales ???
- 9100MC - more even cooking for small or large pots - coil arranged in three rings or their coils are larger in diameter
- 9100MS - 10 power modes (200-1800W) + 15 temp. modes (140F-460F); timer maximum 170 min.
- 9100/9600 - ~6" or 7" diameter induction COIL (so the dia of the circle of maximum heat is ~3.5 inches) read #12
- 9600LS - 10 power modes (100-1800W) + 20 temp. modes (100F-460F); timer maximum 10 hrs - allows slow cook
- 8500ST - 15 cooking levels (200-1800W)
- please read #7+#8 @[aviador] below

2. Ikea Tillreda 1800W (CA$49 +taxes)
- cooking COIL is relatively small, single ring and compact [i.e., heat's a bit uneven for larger pots @[aviador] ]
- cooking AREA 120mm-175mm (minimum 4.72"->6.89") (can use bigger cookware, but will not heat evenly)
- has HANDLE - easy to carry/move + can wrap cord
- cycles, 600W is 75%on 25%off; 400W is 50:50, 200W is 25%on/75%off, etc. (<= not sure, may be 200W and below are all 25%on/75%off) @Quentin5
- Limited 10 Heat ranges: 60W-200W-400W-600W-800W-1000W-1200W-1600w-1800W
- Limited 10 Fry ranges: 140F-160F-180F-210F-280F-320F-360F-390F-430F-450F
- Warranty: 2 yrs. (Ikea)

3. Walmart Salton ID1948 1500W - many models (CA$59.98 + tax)
- 8 cooking levels
- cookware 4"-10" (not exact cook AREA/coil max size)
- Warranty: 5 years (Supplier Warranty)

4. Costco Salton ID1846A 1500W (~ Nov 2020 clearance @ ~$49, no stock/info on website now)
- please see #9 @gumby
- Warranty: 5 years

5. HomeHardware Kuraidori IH-F1800A 1800W (CA$99.97+tax, sales price ??)
- Power range: 60W - 1800W, Temperature range: 160°F - 450°F
- Cookware must have a minimum diameter of 5" to a maximum of 10.25"
- Warranty: ?? no stock at the moment


Canadian Tire Master Chef, regular $99.99, Black Friday ~$59.99/? (Master Chef Double PIC $199.99, now sales @$119.99). I don't trust Master Chef.
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Discussions
1. Duxtop 9100MC 1800W
=> possible alternatives => Duxtop 8500ST 1800W / Duxtop 9600LS 1800W
- please read #7+#8 +#12 @aviador below

2. Ikea Tillreda 1800W

3. Walmart Salton ID1948 1500W - various models

4. Costco Salton ID1846A 1500W - new model?
- please see #9 @gumby

5. HomeHardware Kuraidori IH-F1800A 1800W
- see #10
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Cooking methods:

Hop pot - https://secure.pcinsiders.ca/insiderspr ... t-feast-en

Rice - if pressure cooker, "sound 3-times" after reaching pressure, rest for XX min., done.
Quentin5 wrote: (Ikea Tillreda) . . . soak the Tilda Basmati rice for 30 mins, drain and rinse several times, add 3x the water, bring to a boil at 1800W(or 800W/+, no cover to avoid boil over), immediately reduce to 200W, set the timer for 15 mins, cover and once it beeps and shuts off automatically its ready.

Different brands and different types of rice will require some modification. For example when i make India Gate Basmati rice i find 2x water and 10 mins works better.
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Induction "cycle" and cannot maintain a slow simmer:
Gr8irlbot wrote: This is an issue with a lot of the electric coils (exposed or glass encased) as well. They regulate duty cycle, rather than current output. That's a problem for induction as the heating occurs as induction current flows through the cooking vessel, instead of heating up an element that has heat retention of it's own.

One way to get around this is to use really heavy stainless steel / carbon steel, with an additional bottom layer, or cast iron pots. The other way, is to put a cast iron crepe pan on the induction plate, heat it up at max and then put your pot on top of the pan, and adjust to maintain a simmer. It's a waste of power, but it works and it also works around the pot too big issue as well.
@Gr8irlbot Great ideas!! Isn't side of crepe pan higher? Hence, if I have a cast iron crepe pan, I can only use a smaller pot for simmer?
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aviador wrote: Yup. What Costco sells a Salton portable induction cooktop that's available at most stores. I'm also shopping for a portable induction cooktop with good low temperature settings, to start using it these holidays, so I should make a decision soon. From what I've read online two models from brands available in Canada have good reviews: Duxtop (sold by Amazon, $75-150, free shipping) and Tillreda (sold by IKEA, $50, ~$10-15 shipping). Home Hardware has a house-brand model with good reviews, but I suspect HH reviews are curated.

I'm leaning towards a budget Duxtop cooktop, instead of the IKEA one [both are rated 1800W, from what I know].

Fancy models offer control by setting power and control by temperature, with wide range and lots of intermediate steps between minimum and maximum settings.

My second criteria is sturdiness/durability. Not fan of gadgets that break just after a few uses. That's so prevalent lately with factories pumping out off-brand products that look like the real deal but that break soon [e.g., the Instant Pot pressure cooker copycats, Zojirushi rice cooker copycats, Vitamix/Blendtec copycats, etc.]

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Any owner experiences with Tillreda or Duxtop induction cooktops that people would like to share?
@aviador Duxtop offers many models, the Duxtop 9100MC rated 1st choice is no longer available.

Salton also sells many models, the Costco version was "slim", not as high as the one sold in Walmart.

I myself is looking for a sturdy cooktop too.
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MontrealPost wrote: @aviador Duxtop offers many models, the Duxtop 9100MC rated 1st choice is no longer available.

Salton also sells many models, the Costco version was "slim", not as high as the one sold in Walmart.

I myself is looking for a sturdy cooktop too.
9100MC is not available in Canada, amazon dot com still sells it for ~US$70 and charges ~US$35 to ship it to Canada (duties and taxes). Duxtop has a relatively newer 1800W model available in Canada (amazon dot ca), the 8500ST that has dual control power/temperature, but the steps are coarse particularly at low settings and time control intervals is 5m instead of 1m. If it's like the 8100MC the coil is relatively small, single ring and compact [i.e., heat's a bit uneven for larger pots, particularly all-clad ones]; other PICs have their coil arranged in three rings or their coils are larger in diameter, so these PICs heat evenly both small or large pots. It seems that an alternative (fine control) for the 9100MC is the 9600ST, but it costs 3 times what the Ikea Tillreda costs and I'm not sure about how fine its control is at lower settings.

I've watched teardowns [fantastic videos] of the Tillreda [EU version] and the 8100MC [Canadian version]. The IKEA one looked better built, but both operated pretty much the same. At low temp or low power (under setting #3, IIRC), power control is done by duty cycle and you can see how the PICs alternate ON/OFF every few seconds [not ideal] so temp and heat is really not low nor constant. Another interesting thing was that the fan in the Duxtop 8100MC looked really crude and the reviewer warned about the fan blade probably rubbing its casing when the PIC was not perfectly leveled. I'll post links to those videos later. I haven't found much information about accuracy of the temperature controls.

If I found more information about the Duxtop 8500ST, I'll post back. I've narrowed my search to this Duxtop model and the Ikea tillreda. Fancier models cost too much [for instance, the Duxtop PIC professional line]

I'm not too fan of Salton products. Somehow, I associate that brand with disposable [fragile] products. Not sure if they are making anything of better quality than before.

I think that taller (more clearance at bottom of PIC) PICs have more room for ventilation and their fan make a better job.

It seems that under $80 [what I'm willing to spend on one PIC], it's going to be either the Duxtop 8500st at Amazon ($80, FS) or the Tillreda at Ikea ($50, in-store).

Home Hardware has a house-branded one Kuraidori 1800W Portable Induction Cooktop available for $100.

The Salton PICs at Costco are well priced as well and there's the Costco warranty, so at least you can rely on having a working device at least for 2 years [assuming Costco extended warranty applies to it].

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PIC = Portable Induction Cooker

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Edit:

Teardowns of the IKEA Tillreda and the Duxtop 8100MC (predecessor of the 9100MC, which apparently was superseded by the 8500ST). Just for entertainment.
^ First 2 out of a 5 videos series. EU model, so 230V/2000W


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For the Duxtop PICs you can browse their user's manuals in the Secura dot com website.
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We have the Costco Salton (ID1846A) single induction cooktop for almost a year and we use it mostly for hot pot and simmer. Half of our pots and pans are stainless steel with a thick/heavy base so they all work well with this cooktop.
At the "2" power setting (1 to 10 range), it can keep a large pot simmering without boiling over for hours. We actually prefer the induction over the gas stove for cooking something like this.
It's perfect for hot pot because we can keep the broth at a consistent temperature without being too hot or too cold. We gave away the Tiger electric hot pot from Costco that used to be our favourite after using the induction cooktop.

Edit: added model # ID1846A, 1500W, 5-yr warranty
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An acquaintance has had the Kuraidori 1800 unit for 4 years now and is still very happy with it. No doubt one 4 years old would be better than one purchased today but you never know. I have been thinking of buying it.
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I purchased the Ikea induction single burner. I bought 3 units, two for hot pot and one for the kitchen since my stove is gas, I wanted something to boil water quickly

The problem with hot pot, I need two. Each one of these units can go up to 1800 watts

The receptacle only outputs 1800 watts total. when I hook up two induction cookers, I need 3600 watts and I pop the breaker. Once you get to temperature, I usually simmer at ~800 Watts, so it is fine, but can't heat the broth all at once.
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Gee wrote: I purchased the Ikea induction single burner. I bought 3 units, two for hot pot and one for the kitchen since my stove is gas, I wanted something to boil water quickly

The problem with hot pot, I need two. Each one of these units can go up to 1800 watts

The receptacle only outputs 1800 watts total. when I hook up two induction cookers, I need 3600 watts and I pop the breaker. Once you get to temperature, I usually simmer at ~800 Watts, so it is fine, but can't heat the broth all at once.
Do you have more than one receptacle in your kitchen?
Before Code changes to require 20A receptacles at counter tops, split 15A receptacles were required. If you are plugging both into the same receptacle and tripping the breaker, then they probably aren't split. However, it is possible that if you do have split receptacles, and just happen to be using the same circuit for both.

Explanation: A single receptacle can be supplied by two separate 15A circuits. (This is done by breaking out the brass tab on the receptacle, but I digress). The two 15A circuits then feed a second receptacle, typically in the same position (circuit #1 feeds top half of the receptacle, circuit #2 feeds bottom half).

So, you could be plugging in both appliances into the same circuit and tripping the breaker, when simply switching one appliance to the other half of the receptacle will solve the issue.
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MrFrugal1 wrote: Before Code changes to require 20A receptacles at counter tops, split 15A receptacles were required. If you are plugging both into the same receptacle and tripping the breaker, then they probably aren't split. However, it is possible that if you do have split receptacles, and just happen to be using the same circuit for both.

Explanation: A single receptacle can be supplied by two separate 15A circuits. (This is done by breaking out the brass tab on the receptacle, but I digress). The two 15A circuits then feed a second receptacle, typically in the same position (circuit #1 feeds top half of the receptacle, circuit #2 feeds bottom half).
I didn’t know about split receptacles. I do have 20 Amp breakers for the kitchen and they are on multiple breakers. I know this because they are GFCI and there are multiple. The cheaper out on the bathrooms and only use one GCFI for all the bathrooms. Meaning that they are all on the same circuit. Which is dumb, since two people cannot dry their hair at the same time. (1500 Watt dryers)

All this is moot since we use the induction cook tops for hot pot in the dining room, not the kitchen and the dining area only has one receptacle (15 amp) and I doubt that is split. My current solution is to run an long extension cord from the next room that is on a separate breaker.
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we have the Costco Salton one, bought it few years back when it included the stainless pot also, great for hotpot!
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MontrealPost wrote:
3. Walmart Salton ID1948 1500W - many models (CA$59.98 + tax)
- 8 cooking levels
- cookware 4"-10" (not exact cook AREA/coil max size)
- Warranty: 5 years (Supplier Warranty)
I have this one, no real complaints, so far it works well and is very consistent once you figure out the settings for what you're cooking. Is there anything specific you want to know about it?
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MontrealPost wrote: 1. From the 9100/9600 compare review article, I don't understand why ~6" or 7" diameter induction COIL would => "so the diameter of the circle of maximum heat is ~3.5 inches"
I think this part of the review is wrong. Induction heating uses the cooking vessel as the heating element, so "maximum heat 3.5" doesn't make sense to me.
MontrealPost wrote: 2. Is it safe to use extension cord for Induction 1800W? If need to use extension cord, what to look for (specification?) in extension cord?
I use an extension cord for mine to put on the kitchen table. I run it off a wall outlet as my gas range does not have a power outlet on it.
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I bought the Costco Salton induction plate last year. Returned it, as it didn't have enough power to get my large stockpot up to temp fast enough. Got one of the Amazon models mentioned that was rated at 1800W, and it's more suitable. Maybe it was our pot (induction compatible), but I wouldn't go to a 1500W plate based on my experience.

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Is a hot pot similar to a Dutch oven?

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