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Possible Telus Home Security Scam

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Possible Telus Home Security Scam

Today my father received a voicemail supposingly from "Telus" for 3 months of non-payment about a home security system from them. We never signed up for any home security from Telus and have not been with Telus since 2020 for our cellphone plan.

The person left a number for us to call them but I didn't bother to call them back since I know for sure we never signed up for any home security systems. The only thing I know our family has signed up for the last 3 months was a cellphone plan from koodo on black friday that both of my parents got, however that has nothing to do with Telus nor a home security system. I never received any bills or contracts from telus regarding a home security system and if we did in fact get it, someone would have installed it at our residence. I'm not sure if it's a scam or if someone at Telus screwed up or what.

I'm wondering if anyone has encountered a similar thing as well?
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After my past few months dealing with Telus on a mobility billing issue I wouldn't be surprised what they can screw up. Probably worth calling a legit Telus number and try to find out that way.
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lefroset wrote: After my past few months dealing with Telus on a mobility billing issue I wouldn't be surprised what they can screw up. Probably worth calling a legit Telus number and try to find out that way.
I'm not gonna waste my time chasing after them for a possible screwup they made. We haven't been customers with telus for 2 years now and I just tried to create an online telus account so that I can see if there were any account related charges but they said my # wasn't registered with Telus most likely meaning I'm not a customer with them. In fact, the last bill we received from them back in 2020 was for a credit to our account actually meaning they actually owed us money.

Edit: Just tried online chat on the telus website, and when selecting existing customer and entering my #, it says number invalid probably meaning we aren't even a customer with them. Also can't request forget username/password as it says "Sorry, the information you entered does not match our records. Please try again." What a waste of my time.
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It's just one of those scams phishing for your information it almost definitely wasn't Telus calling. I often get emails saying my Paypal, Apple, Netlflix, Amazon account etc were having issues with my payment. All scams, just ignore the call.
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it could be a scam but could be legit.

few years ago i lost my wallet i cancelled all the cards and ids. but some d bag first went to rogers and tired to open a cell phone with them and couldn't then went to telus and they were successful. bill ran up $400 as i had no idea and the scammer obviously wasn't paying the bill.

months after this account was opened someone saying there from telus saying i owed them $400. i didn't have a telus account i did have a phone with them before but i cancelled it and moved to PM many months before bill full paid off. so i called her a lair and a scammer and she said someone from there fraud dept would call me back in a day or two.

so after she hung up i went and checked TransUnion and Equifax and that was when i see there was Hard hits from Rogers and Telus for the same date and a Telus account on file with $400 owed. Rogers said no account was opened so i guess they hit some snag trying to get one there. but the telus one went though few days later someone from telus fraud called back saying they closed out the account as fraud and provided me a letter to give to TU and EQ took months to get them to remove the account and the hard hits off my credit report and i had to add Fraud alerts to my accounts.
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so I guess Telus didn't even bother to check the photo id.. ah, that's just wrong!
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aaron158 wrote: it could be a scam but could be legit.

few years ago i lost my wallet i cancelled all the cards and ids. but some d bag first went to rogers and tired to open a cell phone with them and couldn't then went to telus and they were successful. bill ran up $400 as i had no idea and the scammer obviously wasn't paying the bill.

months after this account was opened someone saying there from telus saying i owed them $400. i didn't have a telus account i did have a phone with them before but i cancelled it and moved to PM many months before bill full paid off. so i called her a lair and a scammer and she said someone from there fraud dept would call me back in a day or two.

so after she hung up i went and checked TransUnion and Equifax and that was when i see there was Hard hits from Rogers and Telus for the same date and a Telus account on file with $400 owed. Rogers said no account was opened so i guess they hit some snag trying to get one there. but the telus one went though few days later someone from telus fraud called back saying they closed out the account as fraud and provided me a letter to give to TU and EQ took months to get them to remove the account and the hard hits off my credit report and i had to add Fraud alerts to my accounts.
I would have sued Telus just for the fact that you had to go through all of that trouble to get your credit score fixed. I just went to the equifax website to see if my father's credit score got a hit and they want the social security number in order to register for an account to get a credit report. I'm not comfortable giving out that information for fear of identity theft.

In my case it doesn't make sense that a scammer would use my father's account details to register for home security services. I mean, Telus can easily just pull up any recorded footage they have of the scammer and they would easily be identified. My father never lost any of his ID's either. The only thing I know is that back during black friday I helped setup my parents on a koodo cellphone plan at bestbuy. Perhaps an employee swiped his details or something. That would be the only logical explanation for this.
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funcanuck wrote: It's just one of those scams phishing for your information it almost definitely wasn't Telus calling. I often get emails saying my Paypal, Apple, Netlflix, Amazon account etc were having issues with my payment. All scams, just ignore the call.
I get those too but this time, they actually left a voicemail which I thought was pretty bold which makes me have doubts whether or not it is a scam or if someone somehow stole my father's identity and got home security from Telus. But then that is kind of absurd as Telus can see the footage being recorded of the scammer in question if in fact the call was from Telus. Either way, I think I'm gonna give Telus a call sometime next week when I'm free. What a huge pain in the ass and waste of time!
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wolf30 wrote: I would have sued Telus just for the fact that you had to go through all of that trouble to get your credit score fixed. I just went to the equifax website to see if my father's credit score got a hit and they want the social security number in order to register for an account to get a credit report. I'm not comfortable giving out that information for fear of identity theft.
u should be able to get it with his b day. if i recall the sin number field is optional.
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aaron158 wrote: u should be able to get it with his b day. if i recall the sin number field is optional.
Ok I just registered on their site. Where did you go to see the Telus credit hit on your report? Was it under inquries? I'm not seeing anything there from Telus.
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wolf30 wrote: Ok I just registered on their site. Where did you go to see the Telus credit hit on your report?
there should be one spot were it shows hard hits and soft hits. then there is also the list with all the active account and accounts that are inactive but have been inactive for less then 6 years.
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aaron158 wrote: there should be one spot were it shows hard hits and soft hits. then there is also the list with all the active account and accounts that are inactive but have been inactive for less then 6 years.
Is that the inquires section? I have 3 soft hits there that says it doesn't affect the credit score but there's nothing from Telus in there. Under accounts, I do see Telus mobility but that was from 2 years ago and it says account closed and last reported in 2021 which I don't think is related to their home security fiasco. Unless Telus hasn't put a hard hit on his credit score, this is looking more like a phishing scam.

It strikes me as very odd though that if it was identity theft they would register for home security as that pretty much reveals who the scammer is. I'm leaning more towards it being a phishing scam.
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wolf30 wrote: Is that the inquires section? I have 3 soft hits there that says it doesn't affect the credit score but there's nothing from Telus in there. Under accounts, I do see Telus mobility but that was from 2 years ago and it says account closed and last reported in 2021 which I don't think is related to their home security fiasco. Unless Telus hasn't put a hard hit on his credit score, this is looking more like a phishing scam.

It strikes me as very odd though that if it was identity theft they would register for home security as that pretty much reveals who the scammer is. I'm leaning more towards it being a phishing scam.
u are most likely ok then. might want to check TU as well as some times companies report to one of them but not the other.
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Thanks I'll check TransUnion tomorrow as well. If this was a phishing scam this is quite the bold move. The guy that left the voicemail didn't have an accent. I'm used to seeing those text message & email phishing scams, along with the robotic voicemail messages, but this takes the cake.
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wolf30 wrote: Thanks I'll check TransUnion tomorrow as well. If this was a phishing scam this is quite the bold move. The guy that left the voicemail didn't have an accent. I'm used to seeing those text message & email phishing scams, along with the robotic voicemail messages, but this takes the cake.
The thing is if someone signed up for Telus security and stopped paying they would just shut off the account and they would probably send a letter in the mail to the address to tell you. I don't answer the phone if I don't have the number in my contacts and the scammers leave voice mails but If you know you didn't sign up or use that service its 99.9% a scam. It's so easy to spoof phone numbers and the lack of an accent really doesn't mean much.

I use Credit Karma and Borrowell to check my credit score with Equifax and Transunion and if it doesn't show any Telus accounts or inquiries then your dad shouldn't worry about the call.
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funcanuck wrote: The thing is if someone signed up for Telus security and stopped paying they would just shut off the account and they would probably send a letter in the mail to the address to tell you. I don't answer the phone if I don't have the number in my contacts and the scammers leave voice mails but If you know you didn't sign up or use that service its 99.9% a scam. It's so easy to spoof phone numbers and the lack of an accent really doesn't mean much.

I use Credit Karma and Borrowell to check my credit score with Equifax and Transunion and if it doesn't show any Telus accounts or inquiries then your dad shouldn't worry about the call.
Back when my father was still with Zoomer, I remember he received a call from Zoomer regarding missed payments for 1-2 months. I believe his credit card had expired and so Zoomer was unable to automatically withdraw from his credit card. I had a similar situation with distributel. They would call if there was missed payments for 1-3 months, however in this case since we never had home security from Telus, I'd like to believe it was a scam. I didn't see anything on Equifax about Telus home security for my father so it's most likely 99% a scam. I also don't answer the phone anymore as well unless it's from a contact on my phone list. I've received too many scam and spam calls in the last few years.
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You should call Telus directly with their legit number on Telus website, verify if you are really or not a customer, never give credit card number or other personal information through the phone as this may not be ideal. Worst case scenario you can visit one of the Telus store and talk to them in person.
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Koodo is Telus not saying this is related or not but when they call you their numbers and reps are the same and may come up as Telus.

As for not wanting to provide the SIN number to equifax they already have it along with all other information whether you want them to or not they're just checking it against their records.

Reading further on it doesn't appear to be real but you say you don't want to waste time calling telus meanwhile you're doing all this other leg work and calling telus and speaking to their fraud department would have told you if that voicemail and call back number are legit or not.

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