Princess Auto: 220LBS Tire Rack for $60

Bargain_Brett wrote: ↑Hey all, for those in the market for a tire rack. Princess Auto has theirs on sale for $60. This is a much better quality then the Canadian Tire rack that goes on sale for $79.99. I believe this is regular price of $120. I'm so glad I held out for this one. Here's the link: http://www.princessauto.com/trailer/tra ... -tire-rack

I have 2 of these in my garage. They are very sturdy and work great. Highly recommended

Or you can buy the one on sale from Lee Valley for $39.00:


http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.a ... 47&p=68337

"limited quantity"

Do you get the feeling that the market is glutted with these things at the moment?

shouldn't even be buying this.... I don't have a bed yet but I do need extra space in my garage.

You guys don't worry about flat spots from long-term storage?

I use this for my winter tire storage, so the tires come off every 6 months. Is this considered long term storage?

Bargain_Brett wrote: ↑This is a much better quality then the Canadian Tire rack that goes on sale for $79.99.

Hmmm... I have the Canadian tire one and I don't know, this one looks thinner than the Canadian Tire one and only seems to be secured on the top. The rods that run from one end to the other that have the tires sitting on them seem thinner too. On the other hand, the Canadian Tire one I did get real lag bolts to secure it to the wall. I was using the ones supplied and twisted the heads off two of them. But it's held up tires for over a year now. I'm over 200lbs and I did hang off the one I had before I put the tires on it. I'd be scared to hang off the middle of this princess auto one because the bars look thin. The Canadian tire one is supposedly rated to 375lbs.

I want one, too bad the garage is too small. Stacking is good enough for me.

Or you could build your own rack using less than $10 worth of 2x4's from home depot, assuming have a saw and some screws and you know how to use them.

wilsonlam97 wrote: ↑I want one, too bad the garage is too small. Stacking is good enough for me.

Stacking tires one atop another is very bad for the sidewalls which is why stacking tire racks have spacers between the tires to avoid this.

Please, I would love to hear the science behind how stacking some 40lb tires in the dark is somehow tougher on them than loading a 2 ton vehicle on them in the snow, rain, uv light etc. Seriously, use your brains. These things are made out of stabilized, vulcanized rubber reinforced with steel and kevlar belts. Stacking them will do no damage to your tires at all.

EK75 wrote: ↑Please, I would love to hear the science behind how stacking some 40lb tires in the dark is somehow tougher on them than loading a 2 ton vehicle on them in the snow, rain, uv light etc. Seriously, use your brains. These things are made out of stabilized, vulcanized rubber reinforced with steel and kevlar belts. Stacking them will do no damage to your tires at all.

The are built to withstand 2 tonnes if they are on the car. So the bottom of the tire touches the ground and supports the weight. The sidewall of the tire is not made the same way?

That is only a guess. What you said makes more sense to me.

Here you go...

http://www.goodyearrvtires.com/tire-storage.aspx

Here is the Goodyear info from DVD5's link:
[QUOTE]How to Store Your Tires

The best place to store tires is a clean, cool, dry, sunless area away from strong air currents. Even though the rubber used to make tires is formulated to resist the effects of sunlight, ozone, and water, the life of a tire can be extended if exposure to these elements is minimized during storage.

[B]Stack tires flat so that the bottom tire will maintain its shape[/B]

Wrap each tire with an opaque polyethylene covering to minimize the effects of oxygen and ozone. Most Goodyear retailers have storage bags made specifically for this purpose

If tires are being stored outdoors, they should be raised off the storage surface

If tires are stored while mounted on rims, they should be inflated to 10 psi

If they are put in storage during warm weather, the initial inflation pressure should be about 15 psi to offset the pressure drop during cold weather months

[/QUOTE]

The instructions from Goodyear are rather silly. Consider what a tire goes through when it's mounted on your car and you're driving around on it in all weather conditions. And they essentially suggest you baby it when it's in storage????

Flat spots on the tread are only likely to be a problem if you are storing a car for a long period of time with the weight still resting on the tires. That's why you always jack up the car for long term storage. I've never heard of flat spots being a problem on a loose tire, especially not modern radial tires, no matter how you store it.

Are you really suggesting that a billion dollar firm that has been designing, building, and storing tires (warehousing and shipping) since 1898 does not know how best to store their own product? Really?

woof wrote: ↑Or you can buy the one on sale from Lee Valley for $39.00:


http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.a ... 47&p=68337

"limited quantity"

Do you get the feeling that the market is glutted with these things at the moment?

A billion thanks if I could! Just ordered two.

Cantley wrote: ↑Are you really suggesting that a billion dollar firm that has been designing, building, and storing tires (warehousing and shipping) since 1898 does not know how best to store their own product? Really?

Absolutely!! Go to any Goodyear tire store and take a look at the tires they're selling. How do they store them? Are any of them: "Wrap each tire with an opaque polyethylene covering to minimize the effects of oxygen and ozone. Most Goodyear retailers have storage bags made specifically for this purpose." Do you see any retailers actually using their own bags? Keep in mind that tires of odd size and seasonal tires can easily be sitting around for 6 months or more before they're sold so they qualify to follow the manufacturers storage instructions.

If their own dealers don't follow their instructions then why would you? And if you went to an actual Goodyear warehouse with a gazillion tires in it do you think any are stored according to Goodyear's instructions?

there's a difference between 'optimal storage' and 'necessary storage'

most, if not all normal users of tires will find the tread wears down before anything else is an issue. but tires don't have an infinite shelf life. if you are not driving much, it's entirely possible that the rubber will deteriorate and crack before the tread is worn. i see no reason not to store tires away from the harsh conditions and ENSURE that they last as long as the tread does. it's not like they are cheap, and it's not like it's hard to take a little extra care when storing them.

sure there's a ton of misinformation, over-cautious advice, and old wive's tales out there. but this much i can tell you. storing your tires out of the weather can NEVER be a bad thing.

woof wrote: ↑Absolutely!! Go to any Goodyear tire store and take a look at the tires they're selling. How do they store them? Are any of them: "Wrap each tire with an opaque polyethylene covering to minimize the effects of oxygen and ozone. Most Goodyear retailers have storage bags made specifically for this purpose." Do you see any retailers actually using their own bags? Keep in mind that tires of odd size and seasonal tires can easily be sitting around for 6 months or more before they're sold so they qualify to follow the manufacturers storage instructions.

If their own dealers don't follow their instructions then why would you? And if you went to an actual Goodyear warehouse with a gazillion tires in it do you think any are stored according to Goodyear's instructions?

it doesn't make sense for them to spend more money on labour to store tires 'correctly' than they will save by having very very few end up coming back as returns because of it. corporations are all about the bottom line. personal storage is different. it doesn't cost you much(just your time) to store tires in better conditions, and it could save you years of use on your tires.

also, honest question here, does it make a difference if the tires are installed on wheels or not? it's been my experience tires installed on wheels always seem to come out better in terms of retaining their shape for obvious reasons, just wondering if there's any more to it.