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Problem getting Pioneer VSX 1131 and Sony x900F working at 4:4:4 Chroma

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Problem getting Pioneer VSX 1131 and Sony x900F working at 4:4:4 Chroma

I'm having problems getting 4:4:4 chroma through this receiver. Testing with an Apple TV 4k and Sony X900F. Tested the cables individually by connecting the apple tv directly to the TV and both cables connected at 4:4:4. I use the Streambox input which is marked as HDCP, and the TV is connected to the Main output on the receiver. The cable is connected to the HDMI3/ARC port which is one of the two that is supposed to take 4:4:4. I have also upgraded the firmware on the receiver with the latest on the Pioneer website.

Checked the settings on the AVR and the port is set to HDCP.

Using high bandwidth 18Gbps Amazon Basic cables. One is 10' and the other 6'. But as i previously mentioned, if I connect the Apple TV directly to the TV, Dolby Vision and 4:4:4 works. What else can I try?
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Is the Apple TV running the latest OS?

Tried sending a 25, 29, or 30 Hz signal from the ATV to the receiver?

Is the receiver set to process the incoming video signal in any way?
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It’s the latest firmware. So is the Pioneer and the x900f.

It works at 4k 30Hz. I bought new cables from MonoPrice which are certified for 4:4:4 Dolby vision. And same results.

I disabled everything including the OSD. Same results...
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Maybe it's not capable of 4:4:4 at 60 Hz: https://jp.pioneer-audiovisual.com/manu ... ntents.pdf ? I don't know enough to say for sure.

From the link:

Supported resolutions
HDMI IN1 to IN3:
Copyright protection technology: HDCP1.4/HDCP2.2 Color space (Color Depth):
– 720×480i 60Hz, 720×576i 50Hz, 720×480p 60Hz, 720×576p 50Hz,
1920×1080i 50/60Hz, 1280×720p 24/25/30/50/60Hz, 1680×720p 24/25/30/50/60Hz, 1920×1080p 24/25/30/50/60Hz, 2560×1080p 24/25/30/50/60Hz, 4K (3840×2160p) 24/25/30Hz, 4K SMPTE (4096×2160p) 24/25/30Hz : RGB/YCbCr4:4:4 (8/10/12 bit), YCbCr4:2:2 (12 bit)
– 4K (3840×2160p) 50/60Hz, 4K SMPTE (4096×2160p) 50/60Hz : RGB/YCbCr4:4:4 (8 bit), YCbCr4:2:2 (12 bit), YCbCr4:2:0 (8/10/12 bit)

HDMI IN4 to IN6, Front:
Copyright protection technology: HDCP1.4 Color space (Color Depth):
– 720×480i 60Hz, 720×576i 50Hz, 720×480p 60Hz, 720×576p 50Hz,
1920×1080i 50/60Hz, 1280×720p 24/25/30/50/60Hz, 1680×720p 24/25/30/50/60Hz, 1920×1080p 24/25/30/50/60Hz, 2560×1080p 24/25/30/50/60Hz : RGB/YCbCr4:4:4 (8/10/12 bit), YCbCr4:2:2 (12 bit)
– 4K (3840×2160p) 24/25/30Hz, 4K SMPTE (4096×2160p) 24/25/30Hz : RGB/YCbCr4:4:4 (8 bit), YCbCr4:2:2 (12 bit)
– 4K (3840×2160p) 50/60Hz, 4K SMPTE (4096×2160p) 50/60Hz : YCbCr4:2:0 (8 bit)
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audit13 wrote:
Jan 14th, 2019 9:48 pm
Maybe it's not capable of 4:4:4 at 60 Hz: https://jp.pioneer-audiovisual.com/manu ... ntents.pdf ? I don't know enough to say for sure.

From the link:

Supported resolutions
HDMI IN1 to IN3:
Copyright protection technology: HDCP1.4/HDCP2.2 Color space (Color Depth):
– 720×480i 60Hz, 720×576i 50Hz, 720×480p 60Hz, 720×576p 50Hz,
1920×1080i 50/60Hz, 1280×720p 24/25/30/50/60Hz, 1680×720p 24/25/30/50/60Hz, 1920×1080p 24/25/30/50/60Hz, 2560×1080p 24/25/30/50/60Hz, 4K (3840×2160p) 24/25/30Hz, 4K SMPTE (4096×2160p) 24/25/30Hz : RGB/YCbCr4:4:4 (8/10/12 bit), YCbCr4:2:2 (12 bit)
– 4K (3840×2160p) 50/60Hz, 4K SMPTE (4096×2160p) 50/60Hz : RGB/YCbCr4:4:4 (8 bit), YCbCr4:2:2 (12 bit), YCbCr4:2:0 (8/10/12 bit)

HDMI IN4 to IN6, Front:
Copyright protection technology: HDCP1.4 Color space (Color Depth):
– 720×480i 60Hz, 720×576i 50Hz, 720×480p 60Hz, 720×576p 50Hz,
1920×1080i 50/60Hz, 1280×720p 24/25/30/50/60Hz, 1680×720p 24/25/30/50/60Hz, 1920×1080p 24/25/30/50/60Hz, 2560×1080p 24/25/30/50/60Hz : RGB/YCbCr4:4:4 (8/10/12 bit), YCbCr4:2:2 (12 bit)
– 4K (3840×2160p) 24/25/30Hz, 4K SMPTE (4096×2160p) 24/25/30Hz : RGB/YCbCr4:4:4 (8 bit), YCbCr4:2:2 (12 bit)
– 4K (3840×2160p) 50/60Hz, 4K SMPTE (4096×2160p) 50/60Hz : YCbCr4:2:0 (8 bit)
Thanks for checking this for me. I think that this is the resolution I’m looking for

Supported resolutions
HDMI IN1 to IN3:
4K SMPTE (4096×2160p) 50/60Hz : RGB/YCbCr4:4:4 (8 bit)
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Any luck? I checked my Apple tv running through my receiver and it's set to 4k SDR YCbCr 4:4:4. I'm using Amazon basics cables.
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audit13 wrote:
Jan 15th, 2019 8:09 pm
Any luck? I checked my Apple tv running through my receiver and it's set to 4k SDR YCbCr 4:4:4. I'm using Amazon basics cables.
I played around with the tv some more yesterday night, and was able to finally get the Dolby Vision and 4K SDR 4:4:4 working. I used only 6' cables instead of the 10'. While previously debugging, i did not think about turning off the tv and turing it back on, after changing the options with Bravia Sync or the Enhanced HDMI. So when I tested it yesterday with the new 6' cables it worked.
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Traian2003 wrote:
Jan 16th, 2019 9:02 am
I played around with the tv some more yesterday night, and was able to finally get the Dolby Vision and 4K SDR 4:4:4 working. I used only 6' cables instead of the 10'. While previously debugging, i did not think about turning off the tv and turing it back on, after changing the options with Bravia Sync or the Enhanced HDMI. So when I tested it yesterday with the new 6' cables it worked.
Glad it works Hugging Face

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