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Proposed revisions to ON Health and Physical Education Curriculum by a parent group

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Proposed revisions to ON Health and Physical Education Curriculum by a parent group

I'm sorry for starting a new thread about the sex-ed curriculum, but I've found something interesting that I hope to share. I hope everyone can be respectful of each other's views.

Here is a new proposed Health and Physical Education Curriculum by a group called "The Well Informed Parent." BTW, I'm not associated with this group. According to their FB page, The Well Informed Parent is formed by parents that include educators, doctors, psychologists and other professionals.

Have a look.
http://1drv.ms/1N08nBa

If such a revised curriculum can be implemented, I'm sure the majority of the parents who are currently opposed would have no problem with it. The proposed changes are very reasonable, addresses all my concerns and achieve the updates to the current curriculum that are badly needed. I hope Premier Wynne is willing to listen to concerned parents.

Moderators, please don't hesitate to close the thread if comments get out of hand again.
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Oh come on:

they recommend pulling out the words vulva and testicles and THIS is one of their reasons? "Girls’ genitalia are internal and hidden and it would disturb both genders to talk about it at this age, especially that they are still discovering and exploring other systems of their bodies."

Certainly wouldn't disturb my kids to hear the word vulva or testicles, its part of anatomy. Why don't we just pretend things like 'brain' or 'heart' don't exist either. They're hidden.
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wirebound wrote: Oh come on:

they recommend pulling out the words vulva and testicles and THIS is one of their reasons? "Girls’ genitalia are internal and hidden and it would disturb both genders to talk about it at this age, especially that they are still discovering and exploring other systems of their bodies."

Certainly wouldn't disturb my kids to hear the word vulva or testicles, its part of anatomy. Why don't we just pretend things like 'brain' or 'heart' don't exist either. They're hidden.
Indeed. Also, even if we put aside the ridiculous stuff about how learning the correct name for various body parts would be "disturbing" to kids, I'm not sure why they take issue with "vulva" as that's the external genitalia. I think "vagina" would be the term they would take issue with if they're concerned with those scary internal body parts...you'd think that with all of those esteemed "educators, DOCTORS, psychologists, and other professionals" who supposedly wrote this proposal, one of them would have noticed this.

Of course, that's just one of many, many ridiculous and erroneous things in this. I made it through most of it, and I don't think I've ever read something that made me shake my head and roll my eyes more. On every level (logical, scientific, educational, factual, etc.) it's just so very, very bad. It will rightly be dismissed by all involved as the claptrap that it is.
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My favourite part is where they use studies about "sexually explicit content " being detrimental to children as a reason not to teach them certain concepts or vocabulary. I'm see those studies were looking at children exposed to educational materials and lessons, not, you know, movies, music, internet content, and other media children are exposed to whether their patents like it or not.

On the other hand, it is kind of nice to see that some of the people complaining about the curriculum have actually read it.

The nitpicking about the exact wording of teacher prompts and student responses kind of makes me laugh. Does anyone really use those? Surely, the students, especially, will use whatever vocabulary and wording they want.
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I don't support the new curicullum but these are some strange revisions. The curicullum just needs to tone down the repetitive brainwashing against family values and pushing its minority agenda on the majority.

Changes will come because as more parents know what is being taught more are against it. The amount of people who oppose it is growing according to the polls. Keep writing your MPP, sign the petitions and be active. Let your Liberal MP or candidate know that if the curicullum starts in September they lose your vote in October for the federal election.
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Fiddilixx wrote: I don't support the new curicullum but these are some strange revisions. The curicullum just needs to tone down the repetitive brainwashing against family values and pushing its minority agenda on the majority.

Changes will come because as more parents know what is being taught more are against it. The amount of people who oppose it is growing according to the polls. Keep writing your MPP, sign the petitions and be active. Let your Liberal MP or candidate know that if the curicullum starts in September they lose your vote in October for the federal election.
I'm genuinely curious: would the provincial MPP care about your federal vote? I mean, they would care a little, but I feel like it wouldn't carry much weight as a threat. Most politicians are just trying to stay in power themselves as long as they can.

Side note: I'm not opposed to the new curriculum. Just curious about the political aspect.
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Fiddilixx wrote: I don't support the new curicullum but these are some strange revisions. The curicullum just needs to tone down the repetitive brainwashing against family values and pushing its minority agenda on the majority.

Changes will come because as more parents know what is being taught more are against it. The amount of people who oppose it is growing according to the polls. Keep writing your MPP, sign the petitions and be active. Let your Liberal MP or candidate know that if the curicullum starts in September they lose your vote in October for the federal election.
They are not braining washing against family values...they are incorporating all families.
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I can't read this at work as it is blocked, but I will read it when I get home tonight.

However, if the purposed changes are anything like what have been actually posted then it would not benefit any kids. Only hurt them.

There is no brainwashing or any agenda. Those are the words of those who have bever read the curriculum.
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The guideline explicitly encourages children to consider and think about personal values, family values and religious beliefs.

It also encourages kids and their parents to talk and discuss these issues together.

This has been pointed out to Fiddilixx in the other thread, but as usual they are blatantly ignoring anything that does not fit their narrative.
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Ok. I just read these changes that were purposed. Well up to grade 5 as I just could not read any more. Many of those changes they want are clearly religious motivated and would cause more confusion and make kids less informed.
These parents clearly have no clue.
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No thanks. Current revised curriculum is fine. The religious folk can pull their kids from class so they don't find out what sex or a testicle is. There's no need to entertain their effort to impose their morality on a school's biology or health class. They're free to indoctrinate their kids as they see fit but they don't have the right to impose their beliefs on the rest of us.
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[QUOTE]TORONTO – Elementary school students across Ontario have begun to protest the province’s updated health and physical education curriculum, expressing concern that their parents aren’t “mentally developed enough” for them to learn about sex.

“The new sex ed program is way too much for mom and dad,” said Dana, age 12. “As soon as it was announced they started to whine and complain and throw fits. Daddy even locked himself in his room and started blasting Deep Purple when I tried to ask him about it. I really don’t think they are ready for me to learn about sex let alone LGBTQ issues.”

The revised syllabus, the first such change in Ontario’s curriculum in 17 years, includes discussions of sexual orientation, gender identity, and sexting, concepts which many fear parents aren’t emotionally prepared for their children to be taught. This sentiment has been vocally expressed in demonstrations around Queen’s Park, where thousands of children have gathered with banners such as, “Let parents be parents!”, “Don’t damage our parents!” and “My parent, my choice.”

“Do you honestly think that a man who paints his entire body blue every time he goes to a Jay’s game has the maturity for his children to learn about masturbation?” asked a picketer, Jeremy, referring to his father. “I don’t think so.”

Ontario's children are lobbying the government to get sex ed be postponed until it is absolutely necessary. If it happens too early, they reason, their parents may be made uncomfortable.

"Honestly, I don't like the idea of William knowing that I'm learning about penises and vaginas. He's only 43, after all," explained Michael, age 7. "We should wait until he can fully understand it. Ideally, after I've contracted an STI or accidentally gotten a girl pregnant."

In light of these issues, the Ontario government is considering removing sex ed all together, hoping instead that schoolchildren accidentally walk in on their parents.[/QUOTE]


http://www.thebeaverton.com/national/it ... -about-sex

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