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Question about QoS

Hi all,
I have an R7000 flashed with XWRT Vortex (Merlin’s) and I have a page similar to this:
http://kmpic.asus.com/images/2013/04/09 ... e30b24.jpg
I removed all of the services and added the MAC addresses for a few computers at the highest priority.
Does this mean that the remaining devices in my network (that I did not add on the list) will have a lower priority or do I manually need to add every single device and set lower priorities?

Thanks!
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The QoS feature you mentioned is an Asus feature that is not specific to Merlin: https://www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1010951/.


You can use bandwidth monitor:
https://www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1008717/

Turn on every single device on your LAN so that they populate in the list.
And then drag and drop priorities onto each device.

I give highest priority to my VoIP devices. Then I assign high priority to my streaming devices. Everything else gets lower priorities.
Someone downloading 150 games on Steam on her computer shouldn't be affecting my capacity to speak on the phone or watch
Netflix. Someone watching streams shouldn't be affecting my capacity to speak on the phone either.

https://www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1010934/

You do this in conjunction with Adaptive QoS:
a) https://www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1008718/
b) https://www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1010950/

For the reason why, click https://www.snbforums.com/threads/havin ... ost-248919
https://www.snbforums.com/threads/havin ... ost-250751
https://www.snbforums.com/threads/havin ... ost-251916
marcodt wrote:do I manually need to add every single device and set lower priorities?
Asus documentation isn't very clear, but bandwidth should be set aside for devices with highest priorities, and the rest get to fight over the remaining available bandwidth.
However, if you assign more than one device highest priority, then those devices can fight over all available bandwidth, which may not be a good idea.

Apparently, the "default" priority means lowest according to an Asus tech in Singapore.

The same principles apply to Bandwidth Monitor. Regardless, I do assign priority to every device.
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Check your internet speed before and after turning on QoS. Routers are notorious for badly-implemented QoS firmware that reduces overall speed for everything. Merlin may be better, or it may not. Test to make sure that you are actually benefiting from having QoS turned on.
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Webslinger wrote: The QoS feature you mentioned is an Asus features that is not specific to Merlin: https://www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1010951/.


Unless you need to prioritize specific services, just use bandwidth monitor instead:
https://www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1008717/

Turn on every single device on your LAN so that they populate in the list.
And then drag and drop priorities onto each device.

I give highest priority to my VoIP devices. Then I assign high priority to my streaming devices. Everything else gets lower priorities.
Someone downloading 150 games on Steam on her computer shouldn't be affecting my capacity to speak on the phone or watch
Netflix. Someone watching streams shouldn't be affecting my capacity to speak on the phone either.

https://www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1010934/

Otherwise, I would suggest using Adaptive QoS:
a) https://www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1008718/
b) https://www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1010950/

For the reason why, click https://www.snbforums.com/threads/havin ... ost-248919
https://www.snbforums.com/threads/havin ... ost-250751
https://www.snbforums.com/threads/havin ... ost-251916



In theory, no. Asus documentation isn't very clear, but bandwidth should be set aside for devices with highest priorities, and the rest get to fight over the remaining available bandwidth.
However, if you assign more than one device highest priority, then those devices can fight over all available bandwidth, which may not be a good idea.

The same principles apply to Bandwidth Monitor. But, regardless, I do assign priority to every device.
Thank you very much for this. I will play around with it some more where I get home:)
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Faith24 wrote: Check your internet speed before and after turning on QoS. Routers are notorious for badly-implemented QoS firmware that reduces overall speed for everything. Merlin may be better, or it may not. Test to make sure that you are actually benefiting from having QoS turned on.
Unfortunately I only have speeds of 25/3.5ish (download/upload) and I set my QoS to 24.5/3.2 and I’m getting roughly the same speeds as before. I hear that QoS affects speeds of 100Mbits+ due to NAT acceleration but I don’t have to worry about that with these crappy speeds haha.
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marcodt wrote: I hear that QoS affects speeds of 100Mbits+ due to NAT acceleration but I don’t have to worry about that with these crappy speeds haha.
Bandwidth Monitor works with NAT acceleration enabled. Traditional QoS does not (or, at least, it's exceedingly buggy with NAT acceleration enabled the last time I tested).

Given that all you're doing is assigning priority to devices, it makes far more sense for you to use Bandwidth Monitor.
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Webslinger wrote: Bandwidth Monitor works with NAT acceleration enabled. Traditional QoS does not (or, at least, it's exceedingly buggy with NAT acceleration enabled the last time I tested).
I remember reading a while back that you can’t have QoS and NAT Acceleration enabled at the same time running Merlin’s.. not sure if that’s still an issue or not. Do you use Merlin’s?
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marcodt wrote: I remember reading
Perhaps you read my posts.
https://forums.redflagdeals.com/please- ... #p26771625 (for example)
a while back that you can’t have QoS and NAT Acceleration enabled at the same time running Merlin’s.
Traditional QoS only is affected (the last time I tested; I no longer use traditional QoS)

The issue isn't specific to Merlin. It affects all Asus firmware with recent broadcom chipsets.

not sure if that’s still an issue or not. Do you use Merlin’s?
Yes. Again, Bandwidth Monitor works fine with NAT Acceleration enabled.

Given that all you're doing is assigning priority to devices, it makes far more sense for you to use Bandwidth Monitor.
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Faith24 wrote: Check your internet speed before and after turning on QoS. Routers are notorious for badly-implemented QoS firmware that reduces overall speed for everything.
Not with Asus Bandwidth Monitor
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