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insertname2020 wrote: Contrary to what one poster here suggested, SEER rating has no bearing on the quality and noise level of the unit until you get super high end 17++ for which there are no low budget options.

Both low budget and mainstream line units are available in the 13-16 seer range.
The main differences are in cabinet quality, noise level, and protection from loss of charge or fan motor failure. (the better ones shut themselves off to prevent compressor damage)
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Here in the GTA we're cooling something like 3 months... maybe a little more or a little less. The amount of energy saved / money saved simply does not make sense to purchase higher SEER rating AC... unless the Government chips in for some of the initial purchase difference. Since no such things exist anymore, it is highly dubious why anyone would push for higher SEER ratings.

If we were in Florida though, it would actually make sense to get higher SEER ratings for sure. You're better served using that extra cash to buy a nice snowblower than a higher SEER AC.

Also, I agree there's some really dishonest advise being thrown around by a certain poster.
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Anikiri wrote: +1

Here in the GTA we're cooling something like 3 months... maybe a little more or a little less. The amount of energy saved / money saved simply does not make sense to purchase higher SEER rating AC... unless the Government chips in for some of the initial purchase difference. Since no such things exist anymore, it is highly dubious why anyone would push for higher SEER ratings.

If we were in Florida though, it would actually make sense to get higher SEER ratings for sure. You're better served using that extra cash to buy a nice snowblower than a higher SEER AC.

Also, I agree there's some really dishonest advise being thrown around by a certain poster.
Even if the person buying wants higher SEER to conserve resources and not for financial reasons, the extra money could be spend on something else which delivers greater energy savings.
The more efficient units require more metal (hence more energy) to make due to required coil sizes which can offset the energy savings in a mild climate.
When the machine only runs 200-500 hours per year, most people should be getting the minimum.

The 13 gets bumped up to 14+ anyway when there's an ecm motor.
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insertname2020 wrote: Contrary to what one poster here suggested, SEER rating has no bearing on the quality and noise level of the unit until you get super high end 17++ for which there are no low budget options.

Both low budget and mainstream line units are available in the 13-16 seer range.
The main differences are in cabinet quality, noise level, and protection from loss of charge or fan motor failure. (the better ones shut themselves off to prevent compressor damage)
Well said. Honest contractors would only recommend a 13 seer AC for our short cooling season in Ontario. The SEER rating has nothing to do with quality. Some contractors push a higher SEER rating as there is more profit for the contractor. There are lots of fly by night HVAC contractors using the cheapest sub contractors working out of the back of their truck recommending high seer builder grade AC units to make more $$.. Luckily the RFD members on this forum do their research.
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If looking at a 13 seer for quality based on the criteria of noise level, cabinet quality and automatic shutoff switches, which models or brands would you look at from budget to expensive.
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TLSRULZ wrote: I thought Craig installs 13seer units as part of the group buy thread... coupled with our 4month cooling season why spend on higher SEER..
Yes you are correct. Based on our short 3-4 month cooling season it is not worth spending additional $$ for a higher seer as you will not recoup in the savings on energy. Unfortunately there are HVAC contractors out there that recommend 14 seer AC units and above as its more profit for them. The actual SEER rating has nothing to do with quality. It is unfortunate inaccurate information is being posted on this thread.
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AtulB33956 wrote: If looking at a 13 seer for quality based on the criteria of noise level, cabinet quality and automatic shutoff switches, which models or brands would you look at from budget to expensive.
13 seer are normally the cheaper/loud ones, once you get to 17+ you get into the quieter/pricey ones. You need to look through the specs to see what the decibel levels are.
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