rear red tailights issue always ON bright mode help please

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Jun 19th, 2019 6:30 am

mikka2017 [OP]: Deal Expert; Jan 12, 2017; 21665 posts; 6359 upvotes; Scarberia

Jun 19th, 2019 6:30 am

rear red tailights issue always ON bright mode help please

car is 2012 honda civic sedan:

when DRL is on, normal daytime driving, everything is ok, all lights working...ie, when i brake the red back top rear or middle light comes on,whatever u call it, the third brake i believe its called

at night time: one click of the ignition key, the front amber side lights come on right, headlights still off, drl's on i think...every thing is normal...all the rear light up and when i step on the brake it lights up brighter...problem is when i do 2 clicks and put on the headlights... all my rear RED lights light up really bright red, including the third brake light (as if im braking) so the drivers behind me won't know im braking..thats NOT normal right? i tried video taping the rear part of my car but i didn't upload the video yet...its kinda hard to see at daytime lol

anyone have clues? thx

edit: forgot to mention all my bulbs are NOT stock lol...they all chinese LEDs bulbs...prolly the reason right?

cheers

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Jun 19th, 2019 7:56 am

vkizzle: Deal Expert; Aug 22, 2011; 39979 posts; 27374 upvotes; Center of Universe

Jun 19th, 2019 7:56 am

mikka2017 wrote: ↑ car is 2012 honda civic sedan:

when DRL is on, normal daytime driving, everything is ok, all lights working...ie, when i brake the red back top rear or middle light comes on,whatever u call it, the third brake i believe its called

at night time: one click of the ignition key, the front amber side lights come on right, headlights still off, drl's on i think...every thing is normal...all the rear light up and when i step on the brake it lights up brighter...problem is when i do 2 clicks and put on the headlights... all my rear RED lights light up really bright red, including the third brake light (as if im braking) so the drivers behind me won't know im braking..thats NOT normal right? i tried video taping the rear part of my car but i didn't upload the video yet...its kinda hard to see at daytime lol

anyone have clues? thx

edit: forgot to mention all my bulbs are NOT stock lol...they all chinese LEDs bulbs...prolly the reason right?

cheers

Lol, prolly!

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Jun 19th, 2019 8:19 am

Ecsta: Deal Addict; Jan 17, 2009; 4405 posts; 4796 upvotes; Toronto, Ontario

Jun 19th, 2019 8:19 am

LED bulbs require less power so if the car was originally halogen and you put in random LED (that aren't designed for your car) it's probably your issue.

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Jun 19th, 2019 8:53 am

coriolis: Deal Expert; May 22, 2005; 21008 posts; 6522 upvotes; GTA

Jun 19th, 2019 8:53 am

Yes, led bulbs use a different current, and you may need a resistor to balance it. For many cars, when you use an improper LED bulb as the signal light, the car will detect an incorrect voltage and will blink very quickly. This blinking is a feature to tell the driver that the bulb is not working properly.

I assume your bulbs are all eBay specials and not the led bulbs that comes with a proper resistor or voltage current adapter?

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Jun 19th, 2019 10:05 am

FrozenFinger: Jr. Member; Jan 15, 2018; 190 posts; 182 upvotes

Jun 19th, 2019 10:05 am

AFAIK civics dont measure the current that goes to the bulbs. Try to put back the halogen bulbs and see if it makes a difference but my guess is the brake light switch is stuck closed or a short somewhere in the circuit.

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Jun 19th, 2019 10:13 am

Guest032984237: Banned; Mar 7, 2007; 5347 posts; 3024 upvotes

Jun 19th, 2019 10:13 am

I agree with posts above.

First step to troubleshoot this issue: replace all aftermarket bulbs with the OEM bulbs. If problem goes away, then obviously the cause was the bulbs.

If the problem is still there, even with the OEM bulbs, it is probably a fried relay in the headlight wiring.

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Jun 19th, 2019 10:16 am

vkizzle: Deal Expert; Aug 22, 2011; 39979 posts; 27374 upvotes; Center of Universe

Jun 19th, 2019 10:16 am

motomondo wrote: ↑ I agree with posts above.

First step to troubleshoot this issue: replace all aftermarket bulbs with the OEM bulbs. If problem goes away, then obviously the cause was the bulbs.

If the problem is still there, even with the OEM bulbs, it is probably a fried relay in the headlight wiring.

I bet OP threw out all of the original halogens and is not going to go out and spend money on replacements.

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Jun 19th, 2019 12:40 pm

ROYinTO: Deal Fanatic; Dec 12, 2009; 5781 posts; 3267 upvotes; Toronto

Jun 19th, 2019 12:40 pm

FrozenFinger wrote: ↑ my guess is the brake light switch is stuck closed

That was my 1st thought. After rereading the OP, I don't think that is the situation.

mikka2017 wrote: ↑ ...ie, when i brake the red back top rear or middle light comes on,whatever u call it, the third brake i believe its called
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at night time... ...all the rear light up and when i step on the brake it lights up brighter.

Short is possible, cheap bulbs likely.

Jun 19th, 2019 2:46 pm

Bevatron: Deal Fanatic; Jan 8, 2009; 5524 posts; 3985 upvotes; Ontario

Jun 19th, 2019 2:46 pm

FrozenFinger wrote: ↑ Because you keep on addressing me. Take a hike buddy we know you are good at taking criticism - have a Snickers you aren't yourself when you are hungry.

Amazingly I was drawn to use the Snickers comparison in discussion with the same person who was at that time arguing about wiper refills!

Martin (deal addict) wrote: ↑
If you are posting before 7.00am maybe have a Snickers first - or Marathon as I still think of them from 80s UK.

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Jun 19th, 2019 5:42 pm

iSimple: Deal Guru; Sep 13, 2007; 10842 posts; 6309 upvotes

Jun 19th, 2019 5:42 pm

Car is destroyed, get a new Lava hot XL Car + $300GC.

Jun 20th, 2019 11:29 am

mikka2017 [OP]: Deal Expert; Jan 12, 2017; 21665 posts; 6359 upvotes; Scarberia

Jun 20th, 2019 11:29 am

ya, my car is hyperblinking lol, i sort of like the hyperblinking, basically all my bulbs are LED aftermarket...headlights are HID kit, some cheap 8k one for 60 bucks last year , i have blue led DRLs bulbs, i have to use a resistor relay, i forgot what its called, canbus driver piece so it doesn't show the DRL on warning sign on the dash (prevents it)

im suprised i haven't been stopped by the cops with my lights yet, its dangerous for the driver behind me if ur braking and the red lights don't go brighter right?

i'll take a pic of my under the hood/bulbs setup when im not lazy...thx for all who replied

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Jun 20th, 2019 11:45 am

CanadianLurker: Deal Fanatic; Sep 9, 2012; 6497 posts; 5631 upvotes; Oakville, ON

Jun 20th, 2019 11:45 am

mikka2017 wrote: ↑ ya, my car is hyperblinking lol, i sort of like the hyperblinking, basically all my bulbs are LED aftermarket...headlights are HID kit, some cheap 8k one for 60 bucks last year , i have blue led DRLs bulbs, i have to use a resistor relay, i forgot what its called, canbus driver piece so it doesn't show the DRL on warning sign on the dash (prevents it)

im suprised i haven't been stopped by the cops with my lights yet, its dangerous for the driver behind me if ur braking and the red lights don't go brighter right?

i'll take a pic of my under the hood/bulbs setup when im not lazy...thx for all who replied

Dangerous for both the other driver as well as you. If the other guy misjudges the distance and/or misjudges whether or not you’re braking then he might hit you. Depending on speeds involved, you risk getting hurt when they crash into you.

So for your own personal safety too, please don’t delay and get this fixed ASAP.

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Jun 20th, 2019 11:56 am

vkizzle: Deal Expert; Aug 22, 2011; 39979 posts; 27374 upvotes; Center of Universe

Jun 20th, 2019 11:56 am

CanadianLurker wrote: ↑ Dangerous for both the other driver as well as you. If the other guy misjudges the distance and/or misjudges whether or not you’re braking then he might hit you. Depending on speeds involved, you risk getting hurt when they crash into you.

So for your own personal safety too, please don’t delay and get this fixed ASAP.

That's why you have to drive defensively and judge the distance versus the brake lights.
I've driven behind those in a manual that would just roll as long as they can.

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Jun 20th, 2019 12:06 pm

CanadianLurker: Deal Fanatic; Sep 9, 2012; 6497 posts; 5631 upvotes; Oakville, ON

Jun 20th, 2019 12:06 pm

vkizzle wrote: ↑ That's why you have to drive defensively and judge the distance versus the brake lights.
I've driven behind those in a manual that would just roll as long as they can.

Agreed. But sadly, too many people are oblivious on the roads and OP is running the risk of accidentally meeting one of them by driving around with his LED setup.

I guess on the bright side, pardon the pun, he stands a better chance of avoiding a rear end collision with full bright brake lights on compared to running dark or dim or only one light working - which I see way too often.

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Jun 20th, 2019 1:30 pm

jzmtl: Deal Addict; Jun 14, 2008; 4435 posts; 3326 upvotes; Montreal

Jun 20th, 2019 1:30 pm

mikka2017 wrote: ↑ ya, my car is hyperblinking lol, i sort of like the hyperblinking, basically all my bulbs are LED aftermarket...headlights are HID kit, some cheap 8k one for 60 bucks last year , i have blue led DRLs bulbs, i have to use a resistor relay, i forgot what its called, canbus driver piece so it doesn't show the DRL on warning sign on the dash (prevents it)

im suprised i haven't been stopped by the cops with my lights yet, its dangerous for the driver behind me if ur braking and the red lights don't go brighter right?

i'll take a pic of my under the hood/bulbs setup when im not lazy...thx for all who replied

Downvoters, assemble!

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Jun 20th, 2019 3:38 pm

Ecsta: Deal Addict; Jan 17, 2009; 4405 posts; 4796 upvotes; Toronto, Ontario

Jun 20th, 2019 3:38 pm

mikka2017 wrote: ↑ ya, my car is hyperblinking lol, i sort of like the hyperblinking, basically all my bulbs are LED aftermarket...headlights are HID kit, some cheap 8k one for 60 bucks last year , i have blue led DRLs bulbs, i have to use a resistor relay, i forgot what its called, canbus driver piece so it doesn't show the DRL on warning sign on the dash (prevents it)

im suprised i haven't been stopped by the cops with my lights yet, its dangerous for the driver behind me if ur braking and the red lights don't go brighter right?

i'll take a pic of my under the hood/bulbs setup when im not lazy...thx for all who replied

If you get lots of middle fingers from people you pass, please aim your headlights properly and put them in a HID-designed housing.

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Jun 20th, 2019 3:42 pm

vkizzle: Deal Expert; Aug 22, 2011; 39979 posts; 27374 upvotes; Center of Universe

Jun 20th, 2019 3:42 pm

Lost cause folks...
He's not even taking this issue seriously.

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Jun 20th, 2019 3:49 pm

kr0zet: Deal Fanatic; Jan 16, 2011; 7205 posts; 9230 upvotes; The NORTH

Jun 20th, 2019 3:49 pm

vkizzle wrote: ↑ Lost cause folks...
He's not even taking this issue seriously.

No kidding... knew it was the bulbs before posting and didn't even try to put the old ones in to see. was told to swap after posting and instead posts about all the other BS lighting that's going on. I hope for a traffic stop on this one with the follow up post about how they were stopped for no reason.

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Jun 20th, 2019 4:21 pm

werty316: Jr. Member; Jul 17, 2008; 157 posts; 101 upvotes

Jun 20th, 2019 4:21 pm

Do yourself a favour and do a proper HID retrofit (they aren't hard to do) and remove anything that isn't legal (HIDs in projector housings, blue DRLs, break light LEDs that aren't working properly) because you are not only being a safety risk to yourself but other motorists and pedestrians around you; do some research before wasting your $ on cheaply made china ebay LEDs that won't last long or worse, catch fire.

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Jun 23rd, 2019 8:20 am

DoorCrasher: Deal Fanatic; Nov 21, 2013; 8128 posts; 9309 upvotes; Montréal

Jun 23rd, 2019 8:20 am

mikka2017 wrote: ↑ car is 2012 honda civic sedan:

when DRL is on, normal daytime driving, everything is ok, all lights working...ie, when i brake the red back top rear or middle light comes on,whatever u call it, the third brake i believe its called

at night time: one click of the ignition key, the front amber side lights come on right, headlights still off, drl's on i think...every thing is normal...all the rear light up and when i step on the brake it lights up brighter...problem is when i do 2 clicks and put on the headlights... all my rear RED lights light up really bright red, including the third brake light (as if im braking) so the drivers behind me won't know im braking..thats NOT normal right? i tried video taping the rear part of my car but i didn't upload the video yet...its kinda hard to see at daytime lol

anyone have clues? thx

edit: forgot to mention all my bulbs are NOT stock lol...they all chinese LEDs bulbs...prolly the reason right?

cheers

mikka2017 wrote: ↑ ya, my car is hyperblinking lol, i sort of like the hyperblinking, basically all my bulbs are LED aftermarket...headlights are HID kit, some cheap 8k one for 60 bucks last year , i have blue led DRLs bulbs, i have to use a resistor relay, i forgot what its called, canbus driver piece so it doesn't show the DRL on warning sign on the dash (prevents it)

im suprised i haven't been stopped by the cops with my lights yet, its dangerous for the driver behind me if ur braking and the red lights don't go brighter right?

i'll take a pic of my under the hood/bulbs setup when im not lazy...thx for all who replied

Why people try to pimp their car with low end aftermarket parts? Why would you want HID's in a lens that have not been designed for HID's? And, above all this, you are concious that it can be dangerous for both of you and other road users? Man, I'd be shyto ask all those questions here, and, you look to already know the answers....

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