Mind if I ask why you have that opinion?thriftshopper wrote: ↑ I speak Cantonese but I strongly advice against any chiropractor especially/even for that symptom no matter what they speak or what ethnicity they are.
Here ya go. Kyphosis. Yup, chiropractic care wont solve it.
Back condition due to accident (in my early 30s) made worse by chiropractory. For the posture problem (part of which may be caused by spinal degeneration), I'd advocate core exercises. I'm over a quarter century past my back injury and my posture is much better recently due to planking initially and now daily regimen of push ups (which achieves the same and more).
Thankfully, my dad has some interest in improving his health, albeit sometimes with some gentle reminders and persuasion. His willingness to start qigong exercises sometime ago was a good start. I think he'd listen more if it comes from an expert, so it would be a good idea to send him to a specialist of some kind to understand what's happening scientifically that can inform his behaviour.thriftshopper wrote: ↑ The old Chinese ways of accepting aging and not doing anything to keep one in better health and condition (e.g., finite amount of energy/vigour, saving energy/joints to avoid wear, not doing anything physically exertive, etc.) are all very familiar to me. My observation with that led me to try to be fitter and more active (among others, my dermatalogist, her medical receptionist and random women of a certain age (i.e., around mine) compliment me - guess most dudes my age in the far southwest have really let themselves go). Watching CGTN seems to tell me the old dudes and dudettes in China and also in Vancouver - the elderly ones who do Tai Chi early in the morning every day - who maintain physical activity can be very healthy and have good posture in old age, even if osteoporosis is an issue for many of them.
I'd take the elder to a doctor just to see if there is anything wrong. If not, the basic exercises (will permitting) could help a lot.
FWIW, I have a mild sclerosis in my spine, and excess weight carried (could be just 4 Kg more than what I am now) will make an extruded herniated disc (cured by a prescrption NSAID) inflamed. It is my belief the chiropractor that treated me in my early 30s made it worse. The spinal sclerorsis doesn't bother me too much other than I have low flexibility (e.g., can't touch my toes. without bending my knees). The chiropractor I consulted in my mid 20s tried to sell me on a multi-year (or decade) course of treatment.
Time to see a gerontologist. How old is the dude?QuicKi7 wrote: ↑ Thankfully, my dad has some interest in improving his health, albeit sometimes with some gentle reminders and persuasion. His willingness to start qigong exercises sometime ago was a good start. I think he'd listen more if it comes from an expert, so it would be a good idea to send him to a specialist of some kind to understand what's happening scientifically that can inform his behaviour.
Sorry no. Not my primary (or actually even a native dialect) in my family and I don't consume at Chinese-langauge content (most in Mandarin anyway).I wouldn't be surprised if he needs to work on his core. I, myself, have been putting together a core workout due to my own core weaknesses, and I can see some parallel issues with him.
Any chance you've come across good Cantonese content or videos that might suit him?
Will look into that! He's 66.thriftshopper wrote: ↑ Time to see a gerontologist. How old is the dude?
You make the dude sound ancient (maybe he is, relative to you) when he's not much older (less than a decade) than I am. Elderly is my father who is nearly a quarter century older than your old man.
Another point. Primary cause of this is lack of vitamin D and calcium over the decades. First gen asians (mostly boomers) tend not to drink milk or eat calcium enriched foods. Asians tend to be lactose intolerant. Of course today there is lactose free milk and drink equivalent. They say you shud start taking calcium supplements around 50. Asians born in the west tend not to get kyphosis as they grew up on a western diet - wheat, calcium, vitamin D (milk), potassium, etc. Most asian diet is carbohydrates and tea contains zip calcium and vit. D.
aznnorth wrote: ↑ Another point. Primary cause of this is lack of vitamin D and calcium over the decades. First gen asians (mostly boomers) tend not to drink milk or eat calcium enriched foods. Asians tend to be lactose intolerant. Of course today there is lactose free milk and drink equivalent. They say you shud start taking calcium supplements around 50. Asians born in the west tend not to get kyphosis as they grew up on a western diet - wheat, calcium, vitamin D (milk), potassium, etc. Most asian diet is carbohydrates and tea contains zip calcium and vit. D.
You are absolutely right that individual practitioner matters a lot, and there are some very good chiropractors who don't practice junk science.amz155 wrote: ↑ Chiropractors are not a monolith. Chiropractors don’t all practice the same way. I seldomly visit a chiropractor, but when I do, there is never a remote attempt at a quick fix or ‘back cracking’ or spinal adjustments. For me, it’s all about movement assessments, movement pattern evaluation, guidance on proper joint and muscle movement patterns, improving foundational strength and movement, etc. etc. Some chiro clinics look more like a gym than a room with a bed you lay on. That being said, this type of expertise can also be found with a good physiotherapist. IMO what’s most important is not their designation but more so which modalities they employ with clients.
Hm, maybe you're right. I'll try not to be so hard on him. Thanksthriftshopper wrote: ↑ You make the dude sound ancient (maybe he is, relative to you) when he's not much older (less than a decade) than I am. Elderly is my father who is nearly a quarter century older than your old man.
On the contrary, you should be harder on him, potential for better health willing. He seems to be acting old for his age unless there are underlying conditions.
My first choice is always physio. But I don’t write off the all practitioners with chiro designations just because of their designation. With the chiro I saw recently, I didn’t even look for a specific practitioner type - I looked for someone who uses a specific modality/approach and it happened to be a chiro that was most convenient for me (I could’ve selected a physiotherapist, a S&C coach, etc.).multimut wrote: ↑ You are absolutely right that individual practitioner matters a lot, and there are some very good chiropractors who don't practice junk science.
But the good ones are the ones who realize that about 50% of their training is utter nonsense that they ignore and forget. Whereas 100% of physiotherapist training is evidence based. So with that in mind, which profession is more likely to really help you?
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