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Removing wall between kitchen & living room - PHOTOS POSTED

Hello!

We are opening things up, removing the wall between kitchen and living area.

Basically we are not removing the wall all the way up to the ceiling because the ceiling colours will look "off." So there will be a long block of drywall attached to the ceiling.

What is that called up there, and is there somewhere I can look for ideas on how to make it nice?

EDIT - Pictures are further below.
Last edited by jetsfan69 on Nov 26th, 2019 4:17 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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[OP]
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OK.

We are not removing the entire wall, just the top 65% of it, and will have a wooden shelf along the top of what remains.

The ceiling however will just be a drywall block, I was thinking doing a similar stretch of wood to match the shelf below. Not sure.
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you mean like a bulk head where the wall met the ceiling ?....
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The ceilings in your kitchen are a different color than the ones in the adjoining rooms?

The bulkhead (that's more or less what it would be called) should just remain drywall and be painted the same color as the walls. It should be at least 6 to 8 inches tall. Much shorter will look odd and like you 'had' to leave it there.

The Knee or Pony Wall would be the partial wall you're talking about capping with wood trim. I assume you're leaving it in place because you have cabinets on the kitchen side or to avoid dealing with the flooring?
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Like others ...
Trying to envision your scenario
Here’s some pics that might help

Half Walls / Pony Walls typically look like this
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6HU5NnmCFWU/V ... 2Bview.jpg

At the ceiling level they may have nothing to show where a full wall might have been
(Such as the pic above)

Or there might be a bulkhead (with or without support columns)
https://laurelberninteriors.com/wp-cont ... none-.jpeg

If there is a bulkhead, it serves as a delineation
So you could treat both rooms separately ...
Be that paint colours, floor or ceiling treatments

For best flow tho... best to keep at least one of them the same
So all the same flooring
Or all the same ceiling treatment / colour

Based on my pics
Maybe now you could better explain what you have in mind
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Is that wall you removed a supporting wall (even if it has a bulkhead, needs to be done properly or you'll have issues - potentially bad ones like the roof falling in.)
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Based on the way you are describing it, I am concerned of you are removing this wall yourself.
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tralexus1 wrote: you mean like a bulk head where the wall met the ceiling ?....
Yes, sounds like the term I was looking for!
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torontotim wrote: The ceilings in your kitchen are a different color than the ones in the adjoining rooms?

The bulkhead (that's more or less what it would be called) should just remain drywall and be painted the same color as the walls. It should be at least 6 to 8 inches tall. Much shorter will look odd and like you 'had' to leave it there.

The Knee or Pony Wall would be the partial wall you're talking about capping with wood trim. I assume you're leaving it in place because you have cabinets on the kitchen side or to avoid dealing with the flooring?
Interesting. Thanks, we may have done it shorter.
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PointsHubby wrote: Like others ...
Trying to envision your scenario
Here’s some pics that might help

Half Walls / Pony Walls typically look like this
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6HU5NnmCFWU/V ... 2Bview.jpg

At the ceiling level they may have nothing to show where a full wall might have been
(Such as the pic above)

Or there might be a bulkhead (with or without support columns)
https://laurelberninteriors.com/wp-cont ... none-.jpeg

If there is a bulkhead, it serves as a delineation
So you could treat both rooms separately ...
Be that paint colours, floor or ceiling treatments

For best flow tho... best to keep at least one of them the same
So all the same flooring
Or all the same ceiling treatment / colour

Based on my pics
Maybe now you could better explain what you have in mind
Yes, I will check it out and reply again soon.
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IcarusLSC wrote: Is that wall you removed a supporting wall (even if it has a bulkhead, needs to be done properly or you'll have issues - potentially bad ones like the roof falling in.)
An engineer will let us know.
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jacquesstrap wrote: Based on the way you are describing it, I am concerned of you are removing this wall yourself.
We are not doing the work ourselves.
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Remove it all, paint the ceilings white.
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jetsfan69 wrote: Interesting. Thanks, we may have done it shorter.
No idea what this means.
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Hello! So we are requesting an open concept, so to remove the space between the red lines. Leaving approx. 6-8" up top because of a recommendation from another poster.

We need to find out if there is a load bearing wall. The trusses go from front of house to the back. If load bearing then we need to keep the column there.

The kitchen we will be putting in an island against that wall, in the corner of the wall.

We are also considering removing the green area as well, so as to open up that walkthrough / more space to walk by the dining table.

Any comments or thoughts appreciated!

jf
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