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Rent increase etiquette

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[OP]
Sr. Member
Sep 26, 2007
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Rent increase etiquette

Hi there,
I am a new landlord and looking for some advice on how to tell my tenant that the rent will increase after their 1 year anniversary in May.

Is there a proper way to tell her or just email her the N1 form?
Thanks.
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Dec 3, 2019
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Ontario
My advice for etiquette is don't increase it in the first year.
From my experience tenants feel cheated when it goes up so soon and every single year.

It's only 1.2% this year so I think the downside will outweigh the benefit.

In theory next year's rate increase should be much larger as it follows high inflation. I would wait till next year.
[OP]
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Sep 26, 2007
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Toronto
buysellbuy wrote: My advice for etiquette is don't increase it in the first year.
From my experience tenants feel cheated when it goes up so soon and every single year.

It's only 1.2% this year so I think the downside will outweigh the benefit.

In theory next year's rate increase should be much larger as it follows high inflation. I would wait till next year.
This is what I was thinking as well but will I be able to increase the rent the following year or do we have to wait for the province to approve a rent increase?
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Dec 3, 2019
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jmichou wrote: This is what I was thinking as well but will I be able to increase the rent the following year or do we have to wait for the province to approve a rent increase?
You have to wait for the province to announce the amount of rent increase allowed in 2023.

It's always how much not if it's allowed. (except last year)
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buysellbuy wrote: My advice for etiquette is don't increase it in the first year.
From my experience tenants feel cheated when it goes up so soon and every single year.

It's only 1.2% this year so I think the downside will outweigh the benefit.

In theory next year's rate increase should be much larger as it follows high inflation. I would wait till next year.
I don't agree with this but to each their own. I always raise the rent every year on all my rentals. Never had an issue in 20 years. You are running a business. Do you think Bell or Rogers cares if your a new customer when they raise the rates on their internet $5/month?

It's a $12 increase for every $1k in rent owed. Nothing is going to happen for that small of an amount.

Give 90 days notice and make sure its' done on the proper form which is an N1 in Ontario
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Nov 25, 2016
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buysellbuy wrote: My advice for etiquette is don't increase it in the first year.
From my experience tenants feel cheated when it goes up so soon and every single year.

It's only 1.2% this year so I think the downside will outweigh the benefit.

In theory next year's rate increase should be much larger as it follows high inflation. I would wait till next year.
Does it even follow inflation? The average inflation in 2021 is much higher than 1.2%
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Oct 6, 2017
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buysellbuy wrote: My advice for etiquette is don't increase it in the first year.
From my experience tenants feel cheated when it goes up so soon and every single year.

It's only 1.2% this year so I think the downside will outweigh the benefit.

In theory next year's rate increase should be much larger as it follows high inflation. I would wait till next year.
WHAT Flushed Face

Do you feel cheated when property taxes, condo fees, insurance, maintenance cost etc go up?
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rfd911 wrote: WHAT Flushed Face

Do you feel cheated when property taxes, condo fees, insurance, maintenance cost etc go up?
Tenants seem to feel that landlords are rich and because your property went up in value and you’re a millionaire that you shouldn’t ask for an increase. The rent is already so high, why do you need more money? I’ve dealt with enough tenants who feel this way. It actually pisses me off.

I didn’t raise rent for a year but just recently raised it and will be raising it yearly. 1.2%? Better believe it’s getting raised yearly. This is what tenants wanted.
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Samuro wrote: Does it even follow inflation? The average inflation in 2021 is much higher than 1.2%
They have claimed it goes with inflation but it really hasn’t. I don’t expect the number to be much higher than it is now. I wouldn’t bank on it.
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Feb 11, 2016
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We've never raised rent. Just happy to keep the tenants that we have.

Still getting close to market rent any way. Few hundred dollars a year is not worth the headache. That's not the make or break in Ontario any way.
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If you’re on rent control, I would always increase it. If you don’t increase it that year it’s lost forever along with all the compounded rent increases that go along with it. If you’re not on rent control that’s another story since you have a bit more control and flexibility.
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moofur wrote: If you’re on rent control, I would always increase it. If you don’t increase it that year it’s lost forever along with all the compounded rent increases that go along with it. If you’re not on rent control that’s another story since you have a bit more control and flexibility.
See the post above. He will realize in 10 years the pickle that he’s in.
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We don't want to increase it yearly because it seems we are nickle and diming every tenant. It is likely the tenant will move out in 1-3 years anyways so we just increase it to market after.

If they stay long term, we just raise it by much more than 1.2% after like 3-4 years no raises - we just increase it pretty much at anytime - probably closer to 10%. Say for example, we know we are giving cheap rent to begin with, say $500 for a basement room downtown- we just raise it to $530 or $550 in one shot.

Doing the 1-2% raise aint worth it. It goes a long way to tenants when you are not nickel and diming them, treating them as a means to an end. If you have a Karen tenant, goodluck either way.
"If you make a mistake but then change your ways, it is like never having made a mistake at all" - Confucius
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Feb 28, 2022
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Like others have suggested if you are on rent control, raise it yearly. Your expenses as landlords go up every year and rent increase will barely cover the increase.

Let's assume a washer breaks. Will your tenant tell you that it's okay for you to not fix it because you didn't raise the rent in the previous year? No, he would like that to be fixed ASAP and you will be out $300-500.

You have to understand that things go wrong and repairs will be needed and if you are on rent control (especially if your lease is under market value) you are likely not going to recover the cost.

I know people who are leasing their entire townhome for 1700 as the lease started 7 years ago but due to rent increase the landlord can't raise the rent more than $22 a month. The same home in neighbourhood is going for 2700, and even a basement for 2000.

As a londlord he cannot do much and as a landlord you basically have no rights in Ontario. If the tenant doesn't pay it'll take months to get them evicted and you will be out of thousands of dollars.

You do have a right to raise the rent yearly so at least take advantage of that.
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1xTiMeR wrote: We don't want to increase it yearly because it seems we are nickle and diming every tenant. It is likely the tenant will move out in 1-3 years anyways so we just increase it to market after.

If they stay long term, we just raise it by much more than 1.2% after like 3-4 years no raises - we just increase it pretty much at anytime - probably closer to 10%. Say for example, we know we are giving cheap rent to begin with, say $500 for a basement room downtown- we just raise it to $530 or $550 in one shot.

Doing the 1-2% raise aint worth it. It goes a long way to tenants when you are not nickel and diming them, treating them as a means to an end. If you have a Karen tenant, goodluck either way.
You can only do what you're suggesting if your property isn't subject to rent control, which the majority are, unless your property was first used as a rental property after November 1, 2018.

Also, psychologically I'm not sure if the tenant will thank you for not increasing it all these years. All they'll focus on is that you've raised it by 10% or more that one year.
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moofur wrote: You can only do what you're suggesting if your property isn't subject to rent control, which the majority are, unless your property was first used as a rental property after November 1, 2018.

Also, psychologically I'm not sure if the tenant will thank you for not increasing it all these years. All they'll focus on is that you've raised it by 10% or more that one year.
haha well they can move out and find another place, which would be aligned to my increased rent price so its going to be fair either way you look at it; accept the increase or find a market comparable but they always end up upgrading anyways.
"If you make a mistake but then change your ways, it is like never having made a mistake at all" - Confucius
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It is a business, send the standard notice
>Wake up and take the orange pill ...
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Xbowop wrote: We've never raised rent. Just happy to keep the tenants that we have.

Still getting close to market rent any way. Few hundred dollars a year is not worth the headache. That's not the make or break in Ontario any way.
If you don't keep up with inflation you are losing more and more money every year (and provincial guidelines DO NOT keep up with inflation, so it is even worse), that is not really how a business is designed to run.
>Wake up and take the orange pill ...
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Feb 28, 2022
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moofur wrote: You can only do what you're suggesting if your property isn't subject to rent control, which the majority are, unless your property was first used as a rental property after November 1, 2018.

Also, psychologically I'm not sure if the tenant will thank you for not increasing it all these years. All they'll focus on is that you've raised it by 10% or more that one year.
Just seeking some clarification as I'm not too sure.

If a property was first built in let's say 2015 but it was not rented until after November 1 2018, will the rent control still apply?

What about if it was rented, and a new lease started November 2 2018, wil the rent control apply?

Thanks!

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