Restaurants with expensive waste fees

Huh???

Should be higher

I'm not sure about Ontario, but here in Calgary, while they post those waste fees, I've never been charged, even though I have to admit, sometimes I was too gluttonous and overestimated. Maybe it's for really big offenders, like blatant waste?

Pete_Coach wrote: ↑Huh???

It's a waste fee. $12 per 100g of leftover skewers. The goal is to discourage waste as much as possible. I had waste in my Hot Pot and they told me not to worry about it because (to them) it was not much waste.
A table with several unused skewers after a person or group declares themselves full is where the problem seems to be. That is where they are clamping down and charging extra.
At least it's warned in advance so you can't say you did not know.

Long story short, take what you know you need, not what your eyes think you need. lol (and you can always get up and get more if needed)

The waste fee itself seems to be awful high though.

Hiend87 wrote: ↑ I'm not sure about Ontario, but here in Calgary, while they post those waste fees, I've never been charged, even though I have to admit, sometimes I was too gluttonous and overestimated. Maybe it's for really big offenders, like blatant waste?

The policy is in place to prevent scenarios like this:


And, closer to home, like this:

Thought this was automatic at most AYCE sushi places?

What if it does not suit my palate? I found out after taking the first bite it contains allergens or meat I do not eat?
Mandarin would really clean up if they did this.
Great wastage at buffets.

Piro21 wrote: ↑ The policy is in place to prevent scenarios like this:
And, closer to home, like this:

...and the difference between charging $12 or $10 or even $8 per 100g is???

cRaZyRaVr wrote: ↑ Thought this was automatic at most AYCE sushi places?

It is, but the fee is most often capped at $10 extra, at the most. Even then, it's not strictly enforced all the time.

playnicee1 wrote: ↑ ...and the difference between charging $12 or $10 or even $8 per 100g is???

A higher penalty for taking more than you need discourages that behaviour. It should be much higher than $12.

Piro21 wrote: ↑ A higher penalty for taking more than you need discourages that behaviour. It should be much higher than $12.

If $12 doesn't do it then it really questions the type of clientele this restaurant gets.
I wish I could be rich enough to just waste and not care about $12 per 100g left over.
I don't think you realize that we're talking about 100g here, not a full POUND.

playnicee1 wrote: ↑ It's a waste fee. $12 per 100g of leftover skewers. The goal is to discourage waste as much as possible. I had waste in my Hot Pot and they told me not to worry about it because (to them) it was not much waste.
A table with several unused skewers after a person or group declares themselves full is where the problem seems to be. That is where they are clamping down and charging extra.
At least it's warned in advance so you can't say you did not know.

Long story short, take what you know you need, not what your eyes think you need. lol (and you can always get up and get more if needed)

The waste fee itself seems to be awful high though.

Thanks. The photo was not there when I asked.
So, you put as many skewers on your plate as you want and pay for each skewer and if you don't eat them, they charge you extra for the ones yoyu don't eat? I have never heard of such a thing but it makes some sort of sense.
It sound like the kind of stuff you see at American buffets (Golden Corral or Ponderosa or Bonanza). Or even worse, on a cruise ship where people load their plates and take 3 bites and leave.

gh05t wrote: ↑What if it does not suit my palate?

Why would you grab 14 of them? Grab one, try it, then grab 14.

I found out after taking the first bite it contains allergens or meat I do not eat?

Are people that have allergies or dietary restrictions normally just randomly grabbing a bunch of things at a buffet and chowing down?
Maybe I'm nuts, but if I had an allergy I'd make sure to take steps to avoid it instead of stuffing my craw with whatever random food is placed in front of me.
Then again... I tend to like not being in anaphylactic shock but maybe that's just me.

People can be greedy and wasteful. I 100% support penalizing this sort of behaviour.

At $12/100g I can just imagine how much food is flushed down the toilets at that place.

playnicee1 wrote: ↑ If $12 doesn't do it then it really questions the type of clientele this restaurant gets.
I wish I could be rich enough to just waste and not care about $12 per 100g left over.
I don't think you realize that we're talking about 100g here, not a full POUND.

If you're rich enough to just not care then the restaurant still doesn't suffer from your waste if the fee is high enough. They make money from it instead. And $12 per 100g is still too low. It should be higher to ensure that the cost:benefit ratio for that kind of waste isn't acceptable for anyone below a really high bar.

Piro21 wrote: ↑ If you're rich enough to just not care then the restaurant still doesn't suffer from your waste if the fee is high enough. They make money from it instead. And $12 per 100g is still too low. It should be higher to ensure that the cost:benefit ratio for that kind of waste isn't acceptable for anyone below a really high bar.

$6 per 100g is already high enough to deliver the message just fine. Does the job well enough. I even believe it should be lower than that, since we are talking about a rate per 100g, NOT per pound.

$12 per 100g waste fee is just too high. It might even scare some (good) customers away.
Not only that, but there's no other restaurant (in Toronto) with a fee this high, so it's not (as of yet) even a set standard or average.
It's just a rate the restaurant decided to charge.

playnicee1 wrote: ↑ $6 per 100g is already high enough to deliver the message just fine. Does the job well enough. I believe it should be lower than that, since we are talking about a rate per 100g, NOT per pound.

It's like credit card interest. The people who intend to pay on time every month don't need to concern themselves with interest rates, but the people who don't intend to are fixated with them. If you don't intend to waste food you don't need to care about how much they'll charge you for wasted food. The restaurant is making itself more appealing to those with manners and scaring off those who intend to be wasteful by charging this much. If people still go there with the intent to be wasteful, the restaurant is making money off them like a credit card company would.

Piro21 wrote: ↑ It's like credit card interest. The people who intend to pay on time every month don't need to concern themselves with interest rates, but the people who don't intend to are fixated with them. If you don't intend to waste food you don't need to care about how much they'll charge you for wasted food. The restaurant is making itself more appealing to those with manners and scaring off those who intend to be wasteful by charging this much. If people still go there with the intent to be wasteful, the restaurant is making money off them like a credit card company would.

What does manners have to do with your view that it should be higher?
The message is still delivered at $6 per 100g just as well.