Rogue Ohio Barbells (Including Stainless Steel)

FYI....

Shipping is roughly $90 to Toronto...for the bar

Its more for the bumper plates.

Bumper plate shipping is $110 for 2 x 45's....so works out to $3.6/Lbs

I don’t want to compare with Chinese brands - but are Rogue really worth their premium compared to the rest ? (Non-aliexpress that is)

SimonL556 wrote: ↑ I don’t want to compare with Chinese brands - but are Rogue really worth their premium compared to the rest ? (Non-aliexpress that is)

Yes. They are bombproof and stand up to heavy use.

My wife and I both have Rogue (Ohio Cerakote for me, Bella 2.0 Cerakote for her) barbells and they are worth every penny.

teedomo88 wrote: ↑ FYI....

Shipping is roughly $90 to Toronto...for the bar

Its more for the bumper plates.

Bumper plate shipping is $110 for 2 x 45's....so works out to $3.6/Lbs

Yes, total comes to $625 shipped and tax in for Ontario.

Rogue doesn't have any authorized sellers in Ontario anyways, so the website (and paying shipping) is the only way to get their stuff, and afaik they don't have sales to Canada ever (US gets free shipping sometimes).

Once again, SS Ohio is really top of the line for most people and buy it for life, so I think it's totally worth it.

if anyone wants a point of reference for shipping from Rogue, I've ordered a few items last month:

$380 Ohio Black Zinc
$79.79 Shipping
$519.56 Total (w/ Tax)

$487 SML-1 (Squat Rack)
$217 Spotter Arms
$181.81 Shipping
$1,000.96 Total (w/ Tax)

$370.00 Bumper Plates (Pairs - 10lb, 15lb, 25lb, 35lb)
$156.90 Shipping
$595.39 Total (w/ Tax)

$174.00 Bumper Plates (Pairs - 45lb)
$111.14 Shipping
$322.21 Total (w/ Tax)

So its either pay a bit of a premium to actually get items from Rogue or run around the city or pay resale for items locally.

teedomo88 wrote: ↑ FYI....

Shipping is roughly $90 to Toronto...for the bar

Its more for the bumper plates.

Bumper plate shipping is $110 for 2 x 45's....so works out to $3.6/Lbs

It's no secret that Rogue gear is expensive.

You definitely pay a premium for quality and more importantly, customer service. If you buy bumpers from XYZ random company and have an issue, good luck getting it replaced.

SimonL556 wrote: ↑ I don’t want to compare with Chinese brands - but are Rogue really worth their premium compared to the rest ? (Non-aliexpress that is)

They're firmly established in the elite lifting community. This means their bars/equipment will have very high resale value in the future. Just don't do anything stupid to them like grind away the knurling on a metal squat rack (use plastic J-hooks or padding) and don't leave the barbells loaded with plates overnight.

For example, I bought an Eleiko barbell a few years ago from the company's second hand store, and sold it years later for a small profit when I upgraded.

Damn, I was ignorant about the price of this equipment. Still, I can't bring myself to see the value. Maybe the resale as was mentioned, but still.

N8Magic wrote: ↑ It's no secret that Rogue gear is expensive.

You definitely pay a premium for quality and more importantly, customer service. If you buy bumpers from XYZ random company and have an issue, good luck getting it replaced.

You pay a premium for Rogue over cheap chinese bars but they are actually cheaper than a lot of similar and higher end brands. Bars are close to the cost of EliteFTS but rogue shipping is cheaper. Bars are much cheaper than Eleiko and Kabuki strength (both are higher end.) The cheaper options like Rep dont ship to Canada sadly. Titan is definitely much cheaper but their quality is very hit and miss across products and they dont ship to Canada.

I got a Ohio Power bar, it's a really nice bar, the knurl is pretty aggressive which I like but with the centre knurling It wont be very nice for front squats

mezzanine wrote: ↑ Damn, I was ignorant about the price of this equipment. Still, I can't bring myself to see the value. Maybe the resale as was mentioned, but still.

Btw, if you had to cheap out on something, the barbell would not be the piece you want to cheap out on.

I sorta added the plates as an "oh yeah btw..." because that's the one you can actually save money on (when it's not corona times at least).

There is no doubt the quality on these things is excellent, but it's all about what you are using this for. This is basically competition grade stuff. If you have an awesome home gym, work out 4-5 times a week and throw around heavy weight it's worth the investment.

This is just my opinion, but if you have a casual setup and you aren't hardcore dedicated to fitness/having a home gym this is overkill even with the Covid pricing and availability issues right now.

I think you can go the cheap route (All the cap/fitness reality stuff), the mid tier (higher end cap stuff and get some locally sourced power cages/equipment, etc.) or obviously just go high end everything.

I've gone mostly the cheap route, but it satisfies my needs and I think if you take care of the equipment it will last you for quite awhile.

Good find!! But I might pass. I'll go with synergee barbell. I already ordered RM-3!
Also the sleeves are chrome--not stainless steel. Might be better if it's stainless steel too

SimonL556 wrote: ↑ I don’t want to compare with Chinese brands - but are Rogue really worth their premium compared to the rest ? (Non-aliexpress that is)

Yes and no, they are great bars but you could buy a great bar from Tydax, Bells of Steel or this XM bar is the one I purchased -https://www.treadmillfactory.ca/xtreme- ... 500lbs-bar and save a couple hundred dollars.

I love Rogue products and have a RML-3 rack but for me personally I'd pre order this bar from Bells of Steel -https://www.bellsofsteel.com/product/bo ... g-barbell/ and save the $

Cheers

therealj wrote: ↑ Yes and no, they are great bars but you could buy a great bar from Tydax, Bells of Steel or this XM bar is the one I purchased -https://www.treadmillfactory.ca/xtreme- ... 500lbs-bar and save a couple hundred dollars.

I love Rogue products and have a RML-3 rack but for me personally I'd pre order this bar from Bells of Steel -https://www.bellsofsteel.com/product/bo ... g-barbell/ and save the $

Cheers

I'd like to add Gorila fitness to that list. They're based out of QC, so shipping to me (Ottawa) was reasonable. They have very solid products as well.

sliu070 wrote: ↑ I'd like to add Gorila fitness to that list. They're based out of QC, so shipping to me (Ottawa) was reasonable. They have very solid products as well.

Agreed, there are a ton of great Canadian companies out there and it's really not that hard to get products if you have a little patience and keep an eye out. I purchased my plates from Tydax and they were excellent to work with, Bells and Tydax both keep their re-stock items up to date on insta and their newsletter...I don't have personal experience with Bells or Gorilla but both are very well regarded for quality/service.

Mrrfdxyz wrote: ↑ Good find!! But I might pass. I'll go with synergee barbell. I already ordered RM-3!
Also the sleeves are chrome--not stainless steel. Might be better if it's stainless steel too

I ordered from Synergee too. With the coupon applied I feel like they offer a good value compromise between the China junk and this.

therealj wrote: ↑ Yes and no, they are great bars but you could buy a great bar from Tydax, Bells of Steel or this XM bar is the one I purchased -https://www.treadmillfactory.ca/xtreme- ... 500lbs-bar and save a couple hundred dollars.

I love Rogue products and have a RML-3 rack but for me personally I'd pre order this bar from Bells of Steel -https://www.bellsofsteel.com/product/bo ... g-barbell/ and save the $

Cheers

Too expensive. That Bos is made in china too. Better to buy from synergee as they have a really good customer service, cheaper and ships through amazon.

Dave510 wrote: ↑ Btw, if you had to cheap out on something, the barbell would not be the piece you want to cheap out on.

I sorta added the plates as an "oh yeah btw..." because that's the one you can actually save money on (when it's not corona times at least).

I get this..and I have a solid bar now (paid $300 for it).....but I've been lifting with GARBAGE barbells from LA fitness and Crunch fitness for 3-4 years now (literally they are like garbage 32mm steel bars lol)....but have not had any issues with any lifts or progress (my #s are only 250ish bench, 315lbs squat and 405ish dead)

Unless you are pushing a 5-6 plate deadlift, or a 4 plate bench, how important is a $250 barbell vs a $650 barbell vs the garbage from Crunch fitness? I have personally seen no difference

Are you suggesting with actually Oly lifts? Clean and jerks and stuff? Because for basic compound movements (bench, ohp, bench, deads), with reasonable weights....I dont really know the difference...

I get the argument if you are elite....but most of use are not lol...at least im not hah

therealj wrote: ↑ Yes and no, they are great bars but you could buy a great bar from Tydax, Bells of Steel or this XM bar is the one I purchased -https://www.treadmillfactory.ca/xtreme- ... 500lbs-bar and save a couple hundred dollars.

I love Rogue products and have a RML-3 rack but for me personally I'd pre order this bar from Bells of Steel -https://www.bellsofsteel.com/product/bo ... g-barbell/ and save the $

Cheers

teedomo88 wrote: ↑ I get this..and I have a solid bar now (paid $300 for it).....but I've been lifting with GARBAGE barbells from LA fitness and Crunch fitness for 3-4 years now (literally they are like garbage 32mm steel bars lol)....but have not had any issues with any lifts or progress (my #s are only 250ish bench, 315lbs squat and 405ish dead)

Unless you are pushing a 5-6 plate deadlift, or a 4 plate bench, how important is a $250 barbell vs a $650 barbell vs the garbage from Crunch fitness? I have personally seen no difference

Are you suggesting with actually Oly lifts? Clean and jerks and stuff? Because for basic compound movements (bench, ohp, bench, deads), with reasonable weights....I dont really know the difference...

I get the argument if you are elite....but most of use are not lol...at least im not hah

Nah not elite here either hahaha. This is stainless steel (all the bars people pointed out above are probably good, but they're not stainless steel so not apples to apples comparison), which makes it more expensive, if going totally budget, Rogue has the Echo 2.0 too for more than $200 cheaper.

I bought this because it won't rust, and when I'm done I'll get a great resale value out of it. If I have issues, I know their customer support and lifetime warranty will take care of me.

Finally, I value manufacturing in NA vs China (not because China can't produce quality products, but because I rather support jobs here in NA).