Ryzen 3 3100 & 3300X - New budget Gaming CPUs Announced

Performance numbers look great for these budget chips. This is going to be my next build once pricing and availability for the B550 boards are plenty.

So much for the resale value of my recently decommissioned i7-6700.

Good prices and specs. What would the availability be like? Would the 3300x be good for running a server or VMs? Hmmm...

Was just looking at these. pretty good buy esp for the money if they go for under 200 https://www.canadacomputers.com/product ... _id=167673

Basically performs like a i7 7700K ! Couple the 3300X with a sub $100 B450/B550 board that'll kill any Skylake or older used Intel system.... Lets see if the used market will reflect this change in dynamics.

So what is this like a "1600 AF for the rest of us"? Meaning you know, non-Americans? Or wait that is 6C/12T but it's older Zen+ or whatever. Seems like the newer Ryzen 3s based on Zen2 are better for gaming but not better overall:

But, still can't get a 1600 AF here easily, and apparently the price in the US shot up like crazy I heard? I guess scAMD clued in that their "secret SKU" was out of the bag and it was time for cashing in at double the price.

KorruptioN wrote: ↑ So much for the resale value of my recently decommissioned i7-6700.

LOL yeah I hear 'ya. But the thing is, people aren't all that smart when it comes to buying things TBH. I remember a year or so into Coffee Lake, Skylakes were still going for top dollar. Even had a friend who didn't know better thinking he got a deal ona "fell off the truck" special brand new 6700 from "a guy he knew"...after 8700s were out and well-available. Mind you he def. didn't pay full retail for it but still more than (I felt) it was worth. Consolation was at least it was BNIB. Oh well. Build him the system with it and it does everything he needs it to and is actually well-overpowered for what he does with it.

Might as well sell your 6700 stuff quick before more people get wise. I mean even the Science Studio guy on YT that makes fun of all the insanely-priced used listings noted that for whatever unknown reason people are paying way too much for used 1070s, etc when you can just get a 1660 Super for the same/less. I think people do things like knowing what came out, when it came out, but then don't bother to do any research now to see what better is out there or how things have changed. Or, in the case of the CPUs themselves, someone may have 100-series "Skylake board" and have a lower-end CPU and want to upgrade to a higher end one without having to swap more parts. Probably why those 7700s still go for $250 USD. Not saying you should try to con anyone here, but just saying take a look at used prices and what they actually do sell for before giving it away for nothing. Even if it's not competitive with mid-range stuff today, that doesn't mean it can't sell for something respectable (at least for you).

This emerging AMD dominance must just be killing you, @ES_Revenge .

JAC wrote: ↑ This emerging AMD dominance must just be killing you, @ES_Revenge .

Not sure about any dominance but why would it? It's great for competition and for consumers in general. scAMD went from hocking first gen "same-performance, same-price" mainstream Ryzens to cutting prices while Intel's are still way high. I'd say AMD really turned it around just a little before Zen2 CPUs launched, since they dropped all their prices and went pretty darn low on good sales like BF, etc. Prior to that they were pretty senseless/stupid since you got no iGPU, the price was basically the same, and the performance was...basically the same. But now Intel started dropping more of their iGPUs and stupid "F" CPUs are now more the norm than the one or two rogue models, and their prices are just plain high.

Then Zen3 (most of the Ryzen 3xxx, apart from the Gs) came out and the gaming performance came right up and the prices remained pretty good. Not sure why any of this would be a bad thing or why it would be "killing me" (?) but now Intel has to up the ante a bit, the "10th gen" (which is really still just 7th gen still if we think about it) has brought a good bit more value now but they still could go a little further. This is what we call competition.

Now Intel will always command generally higher prices than AMD, that's the way it always has been. Intel has their name and can stand on that but they can't rest on it. Same way when scAMD came in and decided to have no iGPUs, terrible RAM compatibility, and demand the same prices with early mainstream Ryzens, it was just as ridiculous as Intel selling 8C/16T 9900s for like $500 US more recently. Now the next "i9" will be 10C/20T for the same price... But imagine if AMD never had Zen to begin with? i7s would still be 4C/8T CPUs at $400+ with tiny incremental improvements going on so yeah, now we're at least getting somewhere, even if I do think they've now long passed the amount of computational power most people really need or make use of.

ES_Revenge wrote: ↑Not sure about any dominance but why would it?

Well, I assumed you hate AMD based on your rather childish persistence in calling them scAMD. Am I wrong? As for dominance, from what I can tell, AMD now beats Intel in every category except ultra high-end gaming. And by 'beat' I mean price/performance, not revenue.

It's great for competition and for consumers in general. scAMD went from hocking first gen "same-performance, same-price" mainstream Ryzens to cutting prices while Intel's are still way high. I'd say AMD really turned it around just a little before Zen2 CPUs launched, since they dropped all their prices and went pretty darn low on good sales like BF, etc. Prior to that they were pretty senseless/stupid since you got no iGPU, the price was basically the same, and the performance was...basically the same. But now Intel started dropping more of their iGPUs and stupid "F" CPUs are now more the norm than the one or two rogue models, and their prices are just plain high.

Well, if you're going to talk high prices and same performance gen-over-gen, you're basically talking Intel Core CPUs generations 2 through 7.

the "10th gen" (which is really still just 7th gen still if we think about it) has brought a good bit more value now but they still could go a little further.

Eh, I'd call it a Broadwell-E with some extra cores bolted on and ridiculous power consumption under load.

This is what we call competition.

Heh, I'd call it Intel getting caught with their complacent knickers down and flogging their almost 6-year-old process to death in a desperate bid for relevance.

Zero1 wrote: ↑ Performance numbers look great for these budget chips. This is going to be my next build once pricing and availability for the B550 boards are plenty.

ryzen 3 chip needs 5xx series board?

divx wrote: ↑ ryzen 3 chip needs 5xx series board?

Officially as of now, yes. https://community.amd.com/community/gam ... socket-am4

that might change but only of there's enough bad PR.

Edit: oops if you mean Ryzen 3000 chips from last year then no can do run off b450/x470 or even b350s.

ES_Revenge wrote: ↑ Prior to that they were pretty senseless/stupid since you got no iGPU, the price was basically the same, and the performance was...basically the same. But now Intel started dropping more of their iGPUs and stupid "F" CPUs are now more the norm than the one or two rogue models, and their prices are just plain high.

Then Zen3 (most of the Ryzen 3xxx, apart from the Gs) came out and the gaming performance came right up and the prices remained pretty good. Not sure why any of this would be a bad thing or why it would be "killing me" (?) but now Intel has to up the ante a bit, the "10th gen" (which is really still just 7th gen still if we think about it) has brought a good bit more value now but they still could go a little further. This is what we call competition.

Don't forget the mobile sector lots of scammin goin on in there as well . also a Mega Yikes on the "effort posts".

Zarkey wrote: ↑ Officially as of now, yes. https://community.amd.com/community/gam ... socket-am4

that might change but only of there's enough bad PR.

Ryzen 4000 series CPU's are on the Zen 3 architecture
Ryzen 4000 series APU's are on the Zen 2 architecture
Ryzen 3000 series CPU's are on the Zen 2 architecture
Ryzen 3000 series APU's are on the Zen+ architecture

@divx, are you asking about Rzyen 3000 series CPU's?


No AMD Zen 3 Support on 400 and 300 Series Motherboards

I guess it was too good to be true that a motherboard will work with 4 Generations of CPUs. Although The Socket "AM4" technically is utilized in at least 4 generations of Ryzens, a little bit of trickery by AMD it seems. Will they ride the same Socket for a few more years and just switch up the chipset support? Lets hope AMD don't start throwing away the good will they created this quickly

Now I feel great that I bought the cheaper a320 mATX board recently. Apparently they work for 3000 ryzen CPUs, saved myself an extra $100 to $200 for passing over the b450 or b350 boards that cost more.

I am putting together a budget build slowly and will pick up one of these precessors and B550 boards when readily available. Good fun!

KorruptioN wrote: ↑ So much for the resale value of my recently decommissioned i7-6700.

Set it at a reasonable price right now and you can still get a decent return. It's not like people with an Intel motherboard can just buy the 3100 and pop it in. Your chip still serves a certain upgrade vector.

Looking to upgrade a i5 4570, 3300x looks perfect.

How does the 3300x compare to the i5 2500K?