Ryzen R5 1600 prices?
How come there's no posts about how expensive Ryzens are nowadays? 
One poster (you know who it is? ) was comparing Ryzen and Intel in a thread a while back and some of you were ganging up on him defending Ryzen and bashing Intel. I have to admit, I agreed with most of his argument. I do want to like the AMD chips, though, ironically. However, the benchmarks I have come across seems to favour the i5-8400 in most of them when comparing the Ryzen chip.
This was around November. Anyway, I probably would have went on impulse again and bought the Intel i5-8400 right about now as it's currently listed at $229 and the Ryzen R5 1600 is $244 (!!!) at Newegg and Amazon. I think that's way overpriced. The Intel chip is probably right around the price you'd expect (acceptable) but what's holding me back? Yep, the Spectre and Meltdown stuff. Also, with AMD coming out with Ryzen+ around April (is that right?), I guess I should wait anyway? But, if the prices are a similar pattern, then I think they will be too expensive. I don't want to wait until the next discount since I hope/plan to be in the market by the end of April or thereabouts. It already sucks that I am many generations behind (I have a Kentfield!).
The R7 1700 seems at a somewhat satisfactory price but the R5 1600 seems way overpriced for what you get and compared to the i5-8400 price, I don't see too many picking that over the Intel chip even with the security/patch problems.
What do you think of this? Do you agree? Or do you object to my reasoning? I am okay with disagreement. In fact, I welcome different arguments but some concession or agreement would be nice, too. The fact is, I would like to choose the AMD Ryzen build because it honestly most likely serves the purpose I would use it for. I would like to get into gaming but I haven't yet and I think it would take too much of my time. Maybe, a few games and some occasional playing but then I don't need to choose the Intel chip for that reason (e.g. gaming). But, in terms of price and affordability, I will go with what is a good deal (price/performance). The intangible here, though, is the Spectre/Meltdown factor so depending on how this is straightened out, that might be the ultimate determining factor. Some people say that Intel is coming out with new chips. When? Or do they mean they will come out with the same chips or a refresh with a 'fix?'
So, I am wondering if I should anticipate a number of people saying to wait until the Ryzen refresh and see how Intel does with their continuing 'fixes?' The Intel chips supposedly don't have much of a hit in performance after patches with a very small percentage of performance loss that is not really noticeable for normal/ordinary computer users and typical use?
I'm comparing the i5-8400 vs R5 1600, btw, because I think it would be between these two chips. I think I would like to budget about $200 - $250 for the processor. But, I would like it to be a 'good deal/buy.' I already have a discrete graphics card but it's nothing special. I'm not upgrading it with these prices unless I decide to go with one of the cheaper AMD cards.
Comments?
One poster (you know who it is?
) was comparing Ryzen and Intel in a thread a while back and some of you were ganging up on him defending Ryzen and bashing Intel. I have to admit, I agreed with most of his argument. I do want to like the AMD chips, though, ironically. However, the benchmarks I have come across seems to favour the i5-8400 in most of them when comparing the Ryzen chip. This was around November.
Anyway, I probably would have went on impulse again and bought the Intel i5-8400 right about now as it's currently listed at $229 and the Ryzen R5 1600 is $244 (!!!) at Newegg and Amazon. I think that's way overpriced. The Intel chip is probably right around the price you'd expect (acceptable) but what's holding me back? Yep, the Spectre and Meltdown stuff. Also, with AMD coming out with Ryzen+ around April (is that right?), I guess I should wait anyway? But, if the prices are a similar pattern, then I think they will be too expensive. I don't want to wait until the next discount since I hope/plan to be in the market by the end of April or thereabouts. It already sucks that I am many generations behind (I have a Kentfield!). The R7 1700 seems at a somewhat satisfactory price but the R5 1600 seems way overpriced for what you get and compared to the i5-8400 price, I don't see too many picking that over the Intel chip even with the security/patch problems.
What do you think of this? Do you agree? Or do you object to my reasoning?
I am okay with disagreement. In fact, I welcome different arguments but some concession or agreement would be nice, too. The fact is, I would like to choose the AMD Ryzen build because it honestly most likely serves the purpose I would use it for. I would like to get into gaming but I haven't yet and I think it would take too much of my time. Maybe, a few games and some occasional playing but then I don't need to choose the Intel chip for that reason (e.g. gaming). But, in terms of price and affordability, I will go with what is a good deal (price/performance). The intangible here, though, is the Spectre/Meltdown factor so depending on how this is straightened out, that might be the ultimate determining factor. Some people say that Intel is coming out with new chips. When? Or do they mean they will come out with the same chips or a refresh with a 'fix?' So, I am wondering if I should anticipate a number of people saying to wait until the Ryzen refresh and see how Intel does with their continuing 'fixes?' The Intel chips supposedly don't have much of a hit in performance after patches with a very small percentage of performance loss that is not really noticeable for normal/ordinary computer users and typical use?
I'm comparing the i5-8400 vs R5 1600, btw, because I think it would be between these two chips. I think I would like to budget about $200 - $250 for the processor. But, I would like it to be a 'good deal/buy.' I already have a discrete graphics card but it's nothing special. I'm not upgrading it with these prices unless I decide to go with one of the cheaper AMD cards.
Comments?
