A security camera in suite facing the alley at my car. Landlord wants to take it down.

Feb 13th, 2023 11:12 pm

#1

Charles [OP]: Deal Addict; Aug 18, 2003; 2300 posts; 1206 upvotes; YVR

Feb 13th, 2023 11:12 pm

A security camera in suite facing the alley at my car. Landlord wants to take it down.

Hey all

I have a security camera in my suite facing the alley where my car is parked. Landlord wants me to take it down. He says some tenants are uncomfortable seeing the camera when they leave the building in the back.

Any legal types here; I'm not inclined to so it because it's a safety thing. And it's in my suite. And there is nothing in the lease that says I cannot.

Thanks

Last edited by Charles on Feb 27th, 2023 2:39 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Feb 13th, 2023 11:27 pm

#2

BiegeToyota: Deal Addict; Dec 13, 2016; 4349 posts; 3886 upvotes

Feb 13th, 2023 11:27 pm

I would tell him to get stuffed. The camera is obviously not intruding on anyone's privacy. It is a public area.

+2

Feb 13th, 2023 11:46 pm

#3

spike1128: Deal Guru; Oct 7, 2010; 14042 posts; 4720 upvotes

Feb 13th, 2023 11:46 pm

I suppose if your camera just film your own car and you have a sign that you are being recorded in front of your spot. it would not be a problem.

Other tenants either walk around the spot or they get recorded.

Feb 13th, 2023 11:46 pm

#4

blackhatt: Penalty Box; Sep 27, 2008; 1015 posts; 1225 upvotes

Feb 13th, 2023 11:46 pm

I don’t think the landlord has a legal ground to ask you to take it down but perhaps you can compromise by hiding it a bit? It’s a dumb request on their part but I’m not sure it’s worth souring a relationship over

Feb 14th, 2023 12:19 am

#5

Spinner: Deal Fanatic; Sep 19, 2002; 6252 posts; 6219 upvotes; Vancouver

Feb 14th, 2023 12:19 am

It's the equivalent of asking you not to look out that window. It's your suite, you have control.

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Feb 14th, 2023 12:57 am

#6

Fantastical: Deal Addict; May 23, 2006; 1603 posts; 619 upvotes; Vancouver

Feb 14th, 2023 12:57 am

The landlord is in the middle. it's other tenant demand "Landlord wants me to take it down. He says some tenants are uncomfortable seeing the camera when they leave the building in the back."

Not surprising...i find the tenants, especially those who are born and raised locally, are more demanding.

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Feb 14th, 2023 2:00 pm

#7

Chickinvic: Deal Fanatic; Dec 27, 2009; 7793 posts; 5279 upvotes; Victoria, BC

Feb 14th, 2023 2:00 pm

What is their issue? You could (potentially) be looking out at that same site at any time. What's the big deal? It also keeps them safer too.

+3

Feb 14th, 2023 6:03 pm

#8

krn905: Deal Addict; Dec 10, 2017; 2137 posts; 2223 upvotes; Toronto

Feb 14th, 2023 6:03 pm

Chickinvic wrote: ↑ What is their issue? You could (potentially) be looking out at that same site at any time. What's the big deal? It also keeps them safer too.

prolly selling drugs lol

.

+6

Feb 14th, 2023 7:04 pm

#9

Toukolou: Deal Fanatic; Dec 4, 2009; 7966 posts; 3786 upvotes

Feb 14th, 2023 7:04 pm

Don't even respond.

"I'm a bit upset. I've been grab by the back without any alert and lubrification"
Lucky

+2

Feb 14th, 2023 7:39 pm

#10

oilerfan89: Sr. Member; Sep 15, 2017; 986 posts; 1261 upvotes

Feb 14th, 2023 7:39 pm

Sounds like a cash for camera type deal. I'd say he gives you $5000 and you take down the camera.

Tell him if he doesn't like that, he can give you $15,000 to move.

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Feb 14th, 2023 9:05 pm

#11

Piklishi: Deal Addict; Jul 25, 2015; 2141 posts; 1898 upvotes; Burnaby, BC

Feb 14th, 2023 9:05 pm

krn905 wrote: ↑ prolly selling drugs lol

Totally, some tenants don't want to be seen due to doing illegal stuff. If they re clean they wouldn't have an issue with it in contrary would have added more cameras for security.

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Feb 14th, 2023 9:21 pm

#12

kocoman: Deal Addict; Feb 23, 2004; 3545 posts; 307 upvotes; Calgary

Feb 14th, 2023 9:21 pm

landlord is drug dealer too

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Feb 14th, 2023 9:31 pm

#13

markopas: Deal Addict; Mar 3, 2011; 4590 posts; 27709 upvotes

Feb 14th, 2023 9:31 pm

Change the location on the same window and disguise the front of the camera with stickers some cute stickers and cover the window in that area with more stickers so it doesn’t look obvious.

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Feb 15th, 2023 2:03 am

#14

krn905: Deal Addict; Dec 10, 2017; 2137 posts; 2223 upvotes; Toronto

Feb 15th, 2023 2:03 am

Piklishi wrote: ↑ Totally, some tenants don't want to be seen due to doing illegal stuff. If they re clean they wouldn't have an issue with it in contrary would have added more cameras for security.

yeah, no offense to the building but honestly 9/10 complexs like that have some illegal activity going on in atleast one unit lol

.

+2

Feb 15th, 2023 2:33 pm

#15

housingprovider: Newbie; Jul 24, 2022; 20 posts; 30 upvotes

Feb 15th, 2023 2:33 pm

A quick internet search shows there are likely some legal issues involved when a security camera is used to record beyond the boundaries of the property.

https://www.toronto.ca/city-government/ ... 20property.

There are also legal requirements to be followed when recording security video in/on a multi unit property.

You may be putting yourself and the property owner at risk legally.

Feb 15th, 2023 2:58 pm

#16

Chickinvic: Deal Fanatic; Dec 27, 2009; 7793 posts; 5279 upvotes; Victoria, BC

Feb 15th, 2023 2:58 pm

housingprovider wrote: ↑ A quick internet search shows there are likely some legal issues involved when a security camera is used to record beyond the boundaries of the property.

https://www.toronto.ca/city-government/ ... 20property.

There are also legal requirements to be followed when recording security video in/on a multi unit property.

You may be putting yourself and the property owner at risk legally.

This is Vancouver - so it's all good lol (seriously I have no idea, but it just seems odd to me that anyone has a problem with it since it is right at his eye level and he could be looking out there at all times and nobody could say boo about it).

Feb 15th, 2023 4:19 pm

#17

Spinner: Deal Fanatic; Sep 19, 2002; 6252 posts; 6219 upvotes; Vancouver

Feb 15th, 2023 4:19 pm

housingprovider wrote: ↑ A quick internet search shows there are likely some legal issues involved when a security camera is used to record beyond the boundaries of the property.

https://www.toronto.ca/city-government/ ... 20property.

There are also legal requirements to be followed when recording security video in/on a multi unit property.

You may be putting yourself and the property owner at risk legally.

LOL, tell that to every homeowner with a Lorex or Hikvision installed. Not to mention doorbell cameras that record "beyond" the boundaries because they all point to the street.

As long as the camera isn't pointed deliberately at someone's private space, like a bedroom or inside a fenced yard, there are no legal issues.

Feb 15th, 2023 4:39 pm

#18

Toukolou: Deal Fanatic; Dec 4, 2009; 7966 posts; 3786 upvotes

Feb 15th, 2023 4:39 pm

Spinner wrote: ↑ LOL, tell that to every homeowner with a Lorex or Hikvision installed. Not to mention doorbell cameras that record "beyond" the boundaries because they all point to the street.

As long as the camera isn't pointed deliberately at someone's private space, like a bedroom or inside a fenced yard, there are no legal issues.

Agreed I think expecting privacy outside of your own home is absurd nowadays.

"I'm a bit upset. I've been grab by the back without any alert and lubrification"
Lucky

+1

Feb 16th, 2023 1:23 pm

#19

GangStarr: Deal Guru; Sep 6, 2002; 10673 posts; 4006 upvotes

Feb 16th, 2023 1:23 pm

housingprovider wrote: ↑ A quick internet search shows there are likely some legal issues involved when a security camera is used to record beyond the boundaries of the property.

https://www.toronto.ca/city-government/ ... 20property.

There are also legal requirements to be followed when recording security video in/on a multi unit property.

You may be putting yourself and the property owner at risk legally.

Maybe I’m missing something but that article just provides best practices. No mention of multi unit dwelling nor any bylaws about recording streets or off property

You have no expectation of privacy except when in a toilet / change room or similar environment of indecent voyeurism.

Autocorrect sucks

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Feb 16th, 2023 1:28 pm

#20

Middal: Banned; Jan 25, 2023; 44 posts; 41 upvotes

Feb 16th, 2023 1:28 pm

Landlord is the boss

TAKE IT DOWN!!!!

A security camera in suite facing the alley at my car. Landlord wants to take it down.

A security camera in suite facing the alley at my car. Landlord wants to take it down.

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