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Is This Self Defense?

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wilmaster001 wrote: So the moral of the story is that in Canada , even if you are 100% justified in your self defense, there will be charges brought against you and you will be forced to defend yourself in Court against the state.

If you kill someone , no matter the circumstances you will be treated like a criminal and arrested and detained against your will.

Almost like they don't want Canadians to be able to defend themselves huh ?
However, the criminal will be released with no charges after being assessed as:
- having mental problems
- suffered a sad childhood
- been racially impacted
- attacking you unintentionally
- experienced bullying
etc etc etc.

Also they will get free care if in prison or in hospital, whereas you have to pay for all medical expenses yourself if injured by that criminal - and insurance won't pay because it was a violent confrontation. Innocent people are at a disadvantage because we're not allowed to carry "weapons" for self defense while most criminals are armed, and the cops won't get to us in time to save us (especially in a home invasion). Members of the public will not help you either for fear of <........>.
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geokilla wrote: https://v.redd.it/z0vradiw77n51

If you can't watch the video, here's the recap:
  1. Robber is on the sidewalk, runs to the road, and pulls out gun at an oncoming vehicle
  2. Driver floors it and hits the robber, sending them flying
  3. Others in the area carry the robber around to give him some additional injuries

I'd like to think the driver can get away as it's a form of self defense. But knowing our laws, I wouldn't be surprised if the driver ended up in jail instead because our justice system protects criminals.
How do you know it wasnt a rival drug dealer just ending fools with his car. And those people beating on him because the guy was rolling up in their hood :-0
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personally the guy deserved being run over.
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IIRC in the GTA game if you are on foot and fire at a driving cab, the driver would pull off and try to fight you bare fist...? Face With Tears Of Joy

Correct me if I'm wrong. Only played it on my friend's iPad.
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Terabithia wrote: IIRC in the GTA game if you are on foot and fire at a driving cab, the driver would pull off and try to fight you bare fist...? Face With Tears Of Joy

Correct me if I'm wrong. Only played it on my friend's iPad.
In some of the older versions ya. That's how you're supposed to settle small differences. Unfortunately, society has regressed Crying Face
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Terabithia wrote: IIRC in the GTA game if you are on foot and fire at a driving cab, the driver would pull off and try to fight you bare fist...? Face With Tears Of Joy
Correct me if I'm wrong. Only played it on my friend's iPad.
Nope, the taxi driver backs up and runs you down

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You are ambushed by a crook with a gun in unprovoked attack.

You pull a bigger gun (car) and aim at him. The crook starts running for his life, so you are not in immediate danger, but you are assuming that if you put your gun back into the holster, the crook will continue to attempt at your life. So you shoot anyway.

Self defense? In many countries, yes. In Canada, questionable and depending who you get as prosecutor and jury. Do this in liberal town like Toronto and jury will send you to jail for assault maybe even murder attempt. Do this is rural Sasketchewan and you wont be even charged because prosecutor will not consider it worth courts time.
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ramon2 wrote: You are ambushed by a crook with a gun in unprovoked attack.

You pull a bigger gun (car) and aim at him. The crook starts running for his life, so you are not in immediate danger, but you are assuming that if you put your gun back into the holster, the crook will continue to attempt at your life. So you shoot anyway.

Self defense? In many countries, yes. In Canada, questionable and depending who you get as prosecutor and jury. Do this in liberal town like Toronto and jury will send you to jail for assault maybe even murder attempt. Do this is rural Sasketchewan and you wont be even charged because prosecutor will not consider it worth courts time.
How about this one.
Some pyscho shoots you in the stomach.
With all your adrenaline running... somehow you get super strength. You grab both of his arms... then rip Both his arms off. Right off the sockets CLEAN. Blood shooting everywhere.

Do you get charged with cruel and unusual assault?
Or do you get away with it because he shot you in the stomach.
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geokilla wrote: I was wondering what would happen if the exact same thing happened here. Hence why I referred to our justice system.
Well we're pretty much not allowed to defend ourselves anyways or we can face charges anyways.
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I knew a guy once, he got his house broken into. 2 of his Dobermans attacked the thief and the pos ended up in hospital.
2 of his dogs were put down.
Hows that for justice.
A friend of a friend mentioned about someone entering your home, the LEO said, if you feel your life is at risk, your better off killing them because dead ppl can't talk, if not you will go bankrupt defending yourself in court.
The keyword here is "you feel your life is at risk"
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wilmaster001 wrote: This is despicable. The driver should have calmly pulled over and dialed 9/11 and waited for the police to arrive.
Self defence is not a right in Canada. If you are in danger it is your duty to remain calm and wait for the police to arrive.
wilmaster001 wrote: So the moral of the story is that in Canada , even if you are 100% justified in your self defense, there will be charges brought against you and you will be forced to defend yourself in Court against the state.

If you kill someone , no matter the circumstances you will be treated like a criminal and arrested and detained against your will.

Almost like they don't want Canadians to be able to defend themselves huh ?
Exactly. It's the Canadian way, politely bend over and take it. You are free to exercise your rights, but exercising your rights isn't free!

Severe charges get handed out like candy with the expectation it will get haggled down in court, or dropped if you spend enough money and drag it out long enough.

It seems in most cases it's better to kill the criminal, if they live they could sue in civil court and still come out ahead.
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