Seller has to ship via DHL help me mitigate the damage of fees

Jan 15th, 2018 8:43 am

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JayLove06 [OP]: Deal Expert; Feb 29, 2008; 19909 posts; 18592 upvotes; Tarrana & The Ri…

Jan 15th, 2018 8:43 am

Seller has to ship via DHL help me mitigate the damage of fees

Piece of original art valued at around $450 US coming from the UK. Value has to be marked so I can’t get the seller to reduce it.

Damage is tax which I’m fine with but the brokerage fees is what I’m trying to minimize. Apparently original art doesn’t get dinged as much but I’m still nervous.

Has anyone dealt with dhl for art?

Jan 15th, 2018 9:00 am

#2

tony311: Sr. Member; May 29, 2012; 612 posts; 249 upvotes; Southern Ontario

Jan 15th, 2018 9:00 am

how-save-14-95-dhl-fees-self-clearing-packages-2076527/

Jan 15th, 2018 9:33 am

#3

nasa25: Deal Expert; Oct 13, 2009; 21200 posts; 10708 upvotes; Iqaluit, NU

Jan 15th, 2018 9:33 am

I hate DHL as well. I'm getting something from Germany and I told the seller to ship via Deutsche Post instead. Problem is that now I don't have tracking available. Oh well...least I saved on those stupid customs and brokerage fees....

Re: Procurement, Life & RFD
nasa25: say you won it in a raffle. That's what I do with like 86% of my purchases
infinityloop: Lying to your SO seems like an unhealthy long term strategy
nasa25: lmao

Jan 15th, 2018 9:39 am

#4

JayLove06 [OP]: Deal Expert; Feb 29, 2008; 19909 posts; 18592 upvotes; Tarrana & The Ri…

Jan 15th, 2018 9:39 am

nasa25 wrote: ↑ I hate DHL as well. I'm getting something from Germany and I told the seller to ship via Deutsche Post instead. Problem is that now I don't have tracking available. Oh well...least I saved on those stupid customs and brokerage fees....

Yea I asked for them to ship with a different shipper but they only use DHL. Probably gonna get hit with $200+ duty

Jan 15th, 2018 9:44 am

#5

nasa25: Deal Expert; Oct 13, 2009; 21200 posts; 10708 upvotes; Iqaluit, NU

Jan 15th, 2018 9:44 am

JayLove06 wrote: ↑ Yea I asked for them to ship with a different shipper but they only use DHL. Probably gonna get hit with $200+ duty

yup that's shit. Least you can save $15 on the self clearing I guess.

Re: Procurement, Life & RFD
nasa25: say you won it in a raffle. That's what I do with like 86% of my purchases
infinityloop: Lying to your SO seems like an unhealthy long term strategy
nasa25: lmao

Jan 15th, 2018 12:23 pm

#6

EdT586: Penalty Box; Apr 25, 2013; 7398 posts; 1337 upvotes

Jan 15th, 2018 12:23 pm

DHL = Paid to Loose Things !

Jan 15th, 2018 12:48 pm

#7

CNeufeld: Deal Guru; Mar 23, 2008; 13006 posts; 9978 upvotes; Edmonton

Jan 15th, 2018 12:48 pm

JayLove06 wrote: ↑ Yea I asked for them to ship with a different shipper but they only use DHL. Probably gonna get hit with $200+ duty

DHL shouldn't be in control over how much you get dinged for duty. That's CBSA. They only control what your brokerage charges are. Probably no different than FedEx or UPS...

C

+1

Jan 15th, 2018 12:52 pm

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Guest8456458484: Deal Guru; Mar 14, 2005; 13811 posts; 2508 upvotes

Jan 15th, 2018 12:52 pm

Canada-Europe free trade agreement. Why u talking about duty?

+1

Jan 15th, 2018 1:05 pm

#9

JayLove06 [OP]: Deal Expert; Feb 29, 2008; 19909 posts; 18592 upvotes; Tarrana & The Ri…

Jan 15th, 2018 1:05 pm

CNeufeld wrote: ↑ DHL shouldn't be in control over how much you get dinged for duty. That's CBSA. They only control what your brokerage charges are. Probably no different than FedEx or UPS...

C

Yes all couriers are the same. The brokerage charges are what I'm trying to calculate.

Jan 15th, 2018 1:20 pm

#10

Guest8456458484: Deal Guru; Mar 14, 2005; 13811 posts; 2508 upvotes

Jan 15th, 2018 1:20 pm

EdT586 wrote: ↑ DHL = Paid to Loose Things !

Lose!

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Jan 16th, 2018 12:40 am

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Guest439488: Deal Fanatic; Oct 1, 2011; 6337 posts; 1505 upvotes

Jan 16th, 2018 12:40 am

I got a cashmere scarf from Scotland in the fall. DHL did not over-charge me on the customs clearance...it was something like $11-15 dollars? I thought that wasn't too bad, wasn't going to bother clearing it myself to save those bucks.

Duty-free, as per CETA.

Jan 16th, 2018 11:30 am

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macnut: Deal Fanatic; Oct 26, 2008; 6935 posts; 2767 upvotes; Victoria, BC

Jan 16th, 2018 11:30 am

JayLove06 wrote: ↑ ...... Probably gonna get hit with $200+ duty

Why do you think that?

Original artwork is 0% duty regardless of CETA - if it truly does qualify as artwork/collectible.

Assuming you are in Ontario, HST will be around $60 and brokerage or processing fee will be 2.5% of ($450 + shipping cost + tax), so let's say $15
Add in DHL's txn. fee of $4.75, and to be pessimistic a $10 Bonded Storage fee (if it has to be in bond for more than 2 days) and we come to $90 collected by DHL on delivery.

You certainly shouldn't have asked the seller to write in a reduced value as then you would be screwed if the package gets damaged or lost.
And no reputable artwork vendor would do that anyway.

Jan 16th, 2018 11:13 pm

#13

JayLove06 [OP]: Deal Expert; Feb 29, 2008; 19909 posts; 18592 upvotes; Tarrana & The Ri…

Jan 16th, 2018 11:13 pm

macnut wrote: ↑ Why do you think that?

Original artwork is 0% duty regardless of CETA - if it truly does qualify as artwork/collectible.

Assuming you are in Ontario, HST will be around $60 and brokerage or processing fee will be 2.5% of ($450 + shipping cost + tax), so let's say $15
Add in DHL's txn. fee of $4.75, and to be pessimistic a $10 Bonded Storage fee (if it has to be in bond for more than 2 days) and we come to $90 collected by DHL on delivery.

You certainly shouldn't have asked the seller to write in a reduced value as then you would be screwed if the package gets damaged or lost.
And no reputable artwork vendor would do that anyway.

I've had plenty of surprises with DHL and other couriers on....original art.

+1

Jan 17th, 2018 12:27 am

#14

Guest8456458484: Deal Guru; Mar 14, 2005; 13811 posts; 2508 upvotes

Jan 17th, 2018 12:27 am

If original art is indeed 0% duty, then OP should definitely try to get a refund on the duty paid from the CBSA!

Jan 17th, 2018 12:45 am

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krs: Deal Fanatic; Mar 28, 2005; 8065 posts; 2034 upvotes; Cornwall, Ontario

Jan 17th, 2018 12:45 am

Was the item sent by DHL courier?

I have received items shipped via DHL from Germany and they just get delivered by Canada Post like any other package.

Jan 17th, 2018 7:41 am

#16

JayLove06 [OP]: Deal Expert; Feb 29, 2008; 19909 posts; 18592 upvotes; Tarrana & The Ri…

Jan 17th, 2018 7:41 am

krs wrote: ↑ Was the item sent by DHL courier?

I have received items shipped via DHL from Germany and they just get delivered by Canada Post like any other package.

Yea I noticed that Germany uses DHL for regular mail.

Jan 17th, 2018 10:46 am

#17

Dew2: Jr. Member; Feb 13, 2008; 126 posts; 119 upvotes

Jan 17th, 2018 10:46 am

Deutsche Post owns DHL

http://www.dpdhl.com/en.html

Jan 17th, 2018 12:14 pm

#18

krs: Deal Fanatic; Mar 28, 2005; 8065 posts; 2034 upvotes; Cornwall, Ontario

Jan 17th, 2018 12:14 pm

That's why I was wondering if the package was sent by DHL Courier

Seems to me all parcel services out of Germany that are not courier go via DHL and get delivered here by Canada Post

Courier services is a different kettle of fish.

With courier services one ends up paying some brokerage fee if ithe package has to be cleared by customs.
With normal parcels one just pays the CP fee if there is a custom fee to be collected

That at least is my understanding

Jan 17th, 2018 12:58 pm

#19

Guest439488: Deal Fanatic; Oct 1, 2011; 6337 posts; 1505 upvotes

Jan 17th, 2018 12:58 pm

Will you update us with a picture of the bill when you receive it from DHL?

Jan 17th, 2018 5:14 pm

#20

macnut: Deal Fanatic; Oct 26, 2008; 6935 posts; 2767 upvotes; Victoria, BC

Jan 17th, 2018 5:14 pm

Ummm ..... it is coming from UK, not Germany.