We have bought a per-construction house and currently we are doing structural upgrade discussion with the builder. I need help/suggestions regarding standing shower upgrade for one of the washrooms.
In washroom in the picture, we are requesting an upgrade from bathtub to stand up shower. We have also requested deletion of the wall that is enclosing the bathtub near the doors and this is causing a lot of back and forth.
Issue 1: There is plumbing in the wall we are requesting to delete
Solution: Build 6 inches on the wall towards the stairs and move plumbing there.
Issue 2: Building 6 inches will reduce the size of the shower and shower can not be moved ahead because it will block the door.
Solution: Swap the positions of toilet and the bath tub.
Issue 3: Even if we swap the position decor centre rep thinks if we open the door from bedroom 2, it will hit the glass enclosures around the shower.
We do not agree with this and we have asked the following questions:
1. There is 36inches of space allocated for toilet and width of the door is 30 inches. We believe that there is enough clearance for the door.
2. Even if there is not enough clearance, the door will hit the raised boundary that will be created for the shower and there should not be any issue with that.
Issue 4: Even if we assume everything is resolved and we get the wall deleted, a glass shower enclosure can not be installed because the enclosure will have to be installed such that door will not be attached to the wall.
We have no idea about this. We were under the impression that an enclosure like this should be a common thing but he is adamant that this is not possible.
Has any body got any experience with getting an enclosure like this installed?
Change the door to swing into bedroom 2 instead of swinging into the bathroom.
Doesn't really cost anything more, and you can also move the door opening closer to the vanity to gain more space. The reason it's that close to the bathtub is just because if both entrance doors are open, you don't want to squish the person inside it, but that problem is eliminated if the door swings into the bedroom.
Doors open into the bathroom as per tradition, but there's nothing code-wise against opening outwards. In fact, I've read it's recommended for homes with seniors because often, they collapse to the floor of a small bathroom and their body blocks the door so paramedics have a tough time getting inside the bathroom. Obviously, you don't want to swing it into a hallway where people are often walking past, but into a big master bedroom should be fine.
Yes, shower enclosures that you linked to are popular, but require more skill than their standard labourers likely possess (or they're screw it up). All this will cost you two/three times more from the builder than if you got your own contractor to do it. A standard metal/acrylic tub is easily installed by anyone, but properly putting in a tiled shower pan with a leak proof return (what the end piece of glass is called) is something else. I wonder how much you can leave unfinished and still pass Tarion and occupany requirements and have your own contractor do it after occupany?
We are asking builder to build the stand up shower because we really want to delete the wall as it will open the washroom. I understand that means installing a tiled shower pan and it is going to cost us $2500 including the cost of moving the plumbing to the back wall.
We are hoping that some one can come and install a glass enclosure on later. Do you see a problem with this?
We also discussed other options and It will cost us $500 to change the swing of the door and $500 to move the door ($1000 if we want to get both the options) while swapping toilet with the shower is included in the cost of shower.
You dont need to add 6" for plumbing wall. You just need to add 2" to make it 6"
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Locate shower parallel to stair case. Reduce closet depth of bedroom 2 and recess toilet in part of that closet. They might have to move bedroom 2 bathroom door inline with the other bathroom door to get space for the toilet. Get a light and fan for toilet, or combo. Add a glass frosted door after closing. Ask builder for discounts on upgrades. They shouldn't be charging for door swing and door location unless its already framed, some bs.
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Change the door to swing into bedroom 2 instead of swinging into the bathroom.
Doesn't really cost anything more, and you can also move the door opening closer to the vanity to gain more space. The reason it's that close to the bathtub is just because if both entrance doors are open, you don't want to squish the person inside it, but that problem is eliminated if the door swings into the bedroom.
Doors open into the bathroom as per tradition, but there's nothing code-wise against opening outwards. In fact, I've read it's recommended for homes with seniors because often, they collapse to the floor of a small bathroom and their body blocks the door so paramedics have a tough time getting inside the bathroom. Obviously, you don't want to swing it into a hallway where people are often walking past, but into a big master bedroom should be fine.
Yes, shower enclosures that you linked to are popular, but require more skill than their standard labourers likely possess (or they're screw it up). All this will cost you two/three times more from the builder than if you got your own contractor to do it. A standard metal/acrylic tub is easily installed by anyone, but properly putting in a tiled shower pan with a leak proof return (what the end piece of glass is called) is something else. I wonder how much you can leave unfinished and still pass Tarion and occupany requirements and have your own contractor do it after occupany?
Do you know who installs shower doors? I'm having issue with mine but don't know who to call. Are these things done by plumber or a general contractor?
install pocket doors instead. suggest leaving approx 4 foot high wall instead of removing all together. south end of shower would be 4 foot wall & shower glass to ceiling. this will increase light into your shower (from vanity area).
