Shower Safety Bar Install Help and Recomendations

Dec 20th, 2020 1:46 am

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bluewaker [OP]: Deal Addict; Aug 22, 2007; 1038 posts; 68 upvotes

Dec 20th, 2020 1:46 am

Shower Safety Bar Install Help and Recomendations

Hello! Has anyone bought a shower safety bar here? Amazon / Home Depot / Lowes? I've been told not to get the suction kind. Any recommendations on exact products?

YouTube lead me to seeing videos of people drilling straight into the tile without doing any stud finding first. Did anyone else do it this way?

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Dec 20th, 2020 9:11 am

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cheapmeister: Deal Guru; Feb 23, 2008; 12293 posts; 1171 upvotes; Brampton

Dec 20th, 2020 9:11 am

Amazon was cheapest when I bought bars. I bought Moen branded bars. I used a stud finder to locate studs and drilled thru the tile using a tile bit.

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Dec 20th, 2020 9:50 am

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teoconca: Deal Fanatic; Oct 16, 2008; 8055 posts; 2727 upvotes; Maple

Dec 20th, 2020 9:50 am

I just installed one, waiting for my handyman to come back to install another one. I recommend Moen. Don’t get suction bar,it doesn’t support your weight and doesn’t stick well for safety bar. I bought 2 of these https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B001EH ... UTF8&psc=1

Dec 20th, 2020 5:20 pm

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jdmfishingonly: Penalty Box; Oct 13, 2008; 4727 posts; 1693 upvotes

Dec 20th, 2020 5:20 pm

I bought this one and installed it for my mom in her condo unit. Damn walls had NO STUDS behind those thin 1/4" drywalls. Ended up using wall anchors to secure it.

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Dec 20th, 2020 7:49 pm

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georvu: Deal Fanatic; Feb 4, 2015; 6556 posts; 2941 upvotes; Canada, Eh!!

Dec 20th, 2020 7:49 pm

Choose from Moen or Delta, preferably ADA compliant.

https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/catego ... grips.html

Compare prices vs Amzn and other hardware stores.

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Dec 21st, 2020 4:26 pm

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bluewaker [OP]: Deal Addict; Aug 22, 2007; 1038 posts; 68 upvotes

Dec 21st, 2020 4:26 pm

Thank you! I went for Moen at my local Lowe's. They told me to join the VIP PRo program, which gave me 5% off.

Doesn't seem like a hard install.

Dec 21st, 2020 4:26 pm

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bluewaker [OP]: Deal Addict; Aug 22, 2007; 1038 posts; 68 upvotes

Dec 21st, 2020 4:26 pm

jdmfishingonly wrote: ↑ I bought this one and installed it for my mom in her condo unit. Damn walls had NO STUDS behind those thin 1/4" drywalls. Ended up using wall anchors to secure it.

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What kind of wall anchors did you end up using? Curious to see what happened without any studs.

Dec 21st, 2020 6:10 pm

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jdmfishingonly: Penalty Box; Oct 13, 2008; 4727 posts; 1693 upvotes

Dec 21st, 2020 6:10 pm

bluewaker wrote: ↑ What kind of wall anchors did you end up using? Curious to see what happened without any studs.

https://www.homedepot.ca/product/paulin ... 1000540259

16'x11' Living Room 11' Cathedral Ceiling. Hisense 65Q8G. Denon AVR-S740H 7.2 setup. Jamo Classic 10 280W Towers - FR+FL; Polk S35 - Center; Klipsch R51M - RR+RL; Klipsch R14M - Dolby FHR+FHL; Polk HTS10 Subwoofer x2. Unlocked Android Boxes from Taiwan x2

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Dec 23rd, 2020 3:00 am

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bluewaker [OP]: Deal Addict; Aug 22, 2007; 1038 posts; 68 upvotes

Dec 23rd, 2020 3:00 am

jdmfishingonly wrote: ↑ https://www.homedepot.ca/product/paulin ... 1000540259

Thank you so much! Appreciate this.

Dec 23rd, 2020 6:40 am

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littledog: Newbie; Apr 24, 2004; 72 posts; 2 upvotes; Vancouver, BC

Dec 23rd, 2020 6:40 am

I would recommend a matching grab bar anchor due to the fact that it needs to withstand a large amount of force when it's being used.

I installed a Delta grab bar and the matching anchor.

https://www.amazon.ca/Delta-DF549-Hollo ... B00KQ3JVSI

You can also get one for Moen grab bars
https://www.lowes.ca/product/bathroom-s ... ors-337714

Mar 22nd, 2021 8:02 pm

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Squirrel99: Deal Addict; Dec 27, 2007; 4128 posts; 1686 upvotes

Mar 22nd, 2021 8:02 pm

littledog wrote: ↑ I would recommend a matching grab bar anchor due to the fact that it needs to withstand a large amount of force when it's being used.

I installed a Delta grab bar and the matching anchor.

https://www.amazon.ca/Delta-DF549-Hollo ... B00KQ3JVSI

You can also get one for Moen grab bars
https://www.lowes.ca/product/bathroom-s ... ors-337714

I don't want to drill through tile/kerdi board so I may need to use these as the stud may be a bit too far off.

Any issues using the moen mounting hardware?

Are they safe and fine to use? Looks simple enough to install...

Mar 22nd, 2021 9:42 pm

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thriftshopper: Deal Fanatic; Jul 7, 2017; 6074 posts; 2684 upvotes; SW corner of the cou…

Mar 22nd, 2021 9:42 pm

Moen ones come with supposedly heavy-duty drywall anchors. I suspect a heavy fall will damage the wall.

Cream rises to the top. So does scum.

Mar 22nd, 2021 9:50 pm

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Squirrel99: Deal Addict; Dec 27, 2007; 4128 posts; 1686 upvotes

Mar 22nd, 2021 9:50 pm

thriftshopper wrote: ↑ Moen ones come with supposedly heavy-duty drywall anchors. I suspect a heavy fall will damage the wall.

I think you need to buy them separately but I'll have to double check at the store but they look like they are safe enough to use

Now I need to figure out which drill bit to buy

Mar 22nd, 2021 10:10 pm

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QuicKi7: Sr. Member; Sep 3, 2019; 798 posts; 555 upvotes; GTA

Mar 22nd, 2021 10:10 pm

Any thoughts on whether the bar should be vertical, horizontal or if the L-shaped bars are more useful?

Mar 22nd, 2021 11:40 pm

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thriftshopper: Deal Fanatic; Jul 7, 2017; 6074 posts; 2684 upvotes; SW corner of the cou…

Mar 22nd, 2021 11:40 pm

Squirrel99 wrote: ↑ I think you need to buy them separately but I'll have to double check at the store but they look like they are safe enough to use

Definitely included with the set I bought (had shelves to hold toiletries - maybe others don't or not all have them).

Cream rises to the top. So does scum.

Mar 22nd, 2021 11:47 pm

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Squirrel99: Deal Addict; Dec 27, 2007; 4128 posts; 1686 upvotes

Mar 22nd, 2021 11:47 pm

thriftshopper wrote: ↑ Definitely included with the set I bought (had shelves to hold toiletries - maybe others don't or not all have them).

I will double check, what store did you purchase from?

Was it these anchors? https://www.homedepot.ca/product/moen-s ... 1000665188

Mar 22nd, 2021 11:57 pm

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thriftshopper: Deal Fanatic; Jul 7, 2017; 6074 posts; 2684 upvotes; SW corner of the cou…

Mar 22nd, 2021 11:57 pm

Squirrel99 wrote: ↑ I will double check, what store did you purchase from?

Online Andrew Sheret (Plumbing online or some such).

Was it these anchors?

https://www.homedepot.ca/product/moen-s ... 1000665188

Cream rises to the top. So does scum.

Mar 23rd, 2021 12:23 am

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Squirrel99: Deal Addict; Dec 27, 2007; 4128 posts; 1686 upvotes

Mar 23rd, 2021 12:23 am

thriftshopper wrote: ↑ Online Andrew Sheret (Plumbing online or some such).

https://www.homedepot.ca/product/moen-s ... 1000665188

Maybe Home Depot and Lowes Moen grab bars don't come with the anchors, all of them seem to say it's optional or extra

And would this be the right pick to drill the hole? https://www.homedepot.ca/product/ryobi- ... 1000655838

Mar 23rd, 2021 8:34 am

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rcmpvet: Deal Addict; Oct 13, 2014; 2176 posts; 1402 upvotes; Just Moved To Somewh…

Mar 23rd, 2021 8:34 am

QuicKi7 wrote: ↑ Any thoughts on whether the bar should be vertical, horizontal or if the L-shaped bars are more useful?

Easy to say it is a matter of personal choice, however it should depend on who is using it the most. For seniors it is usually best to mount the bar on an approximate 45-60 degree angle. If mounted vertically then their wet hands may slip and slide down the bar, losing their grip. If mounted horizontally they they have to "contort" their wrist to grab and lift. At 45-60 degrees sloping upwards they get the best grip without contorting their wrist.

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