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TGoyel wrote: ↑ Give it a rest dude.

I'm not trying to convince you of anything, it's clear where your stance is on this. It's my opinion of people who don't tip using a delivery service in which they have a coupon code that saved them 80%+. Again, it's my opinion of these people, I'm not a fan, I think it's wrong, and I think it's pathetic. To be fair, I don't give a shit you think I'm delightful individual or not, me calling you out has you on the defensive.

Xtyle86 wrote: ↑ I am going to settle this tip vs non tip.

First of all, I tip. why? to save face.
Companies know this and they push the financial burden on the customers to make up for their shitty wages.

But then there are some restaurants who actually deny tips. Their food is more expensive but I can assume their wages are higher.
You eat. you pay. you walk out. no 'trying to save face'. no 'here is $XX, don't spit in my food next time please'.

Here is why you shouldn't tip:
If you tip, you are setting a standard and pressuring others to tip while allowing companies to practice unfair wages.
Donations are done anonymously. Tips should too.

So what can we do? nothing.
it's like buying a diamond ring for your fiancee. You know it's a made up money grab tradition that destroys certain African countries and their children which you have to pay 3x your income for (set by diamond companies to increase their price with the inflation). But you can't do nothing about it. why? because you have to save face. your fiancee has to save face.

If you tip or buy diamond rings. Good for you. I also do a lot of stupid shit just to save my face. But I don't force others to do them and I certainly don't patronize others who don't.

If you tip genuinely because you liked the service, why stop there? tip that guy who opened the door for you. Or the person who held the elevator for you.

If you tip because you feel bad for the driver's wage. don't worry. the system will sort itself. like every f'ing business out there in a capitalistic country.

Jon Lai wrote: ↑ I agree with this. Unfortunately it's a cultural phenomenon that probably won't change unless there is enough cultural shift, which I can't see at this point.

MobyZz wrote: ↑ Non Tippers will get their karma....in one way or another. Either them or people close to them. I truly believe that. What goes around comes around.

Non-Tippers have 0 sound argument, none whatsoever. They try to justify their cheapness with ineffective bullshit arguments to make themselves feel better. It doesn't work, it makes you look like a fool.

One day it'll be them doing the deliveries and they'll get shafted by the company and make little to nothing.

MobyZz wrote: ↑ Non Tippers will get their karma....in one way or another. Either them or people close to them. I truly believe that. What goes around comes around.

Non-Tippers have 0 sound argument, none whatsoever. They try to justify their cheapness with ineffective bullshit arguments to make themselves feel better. It doesn't work, it makes you look like a fool.

One day it'll be them doing the deliveries and they'll get shafted by the company and make little to nothing.

Jon Lai wrote: ↑ I agree with this. Unfortunately it's a cultural phenomenon that probably won't change unless there is enough cultural shift, which I can't see at this point.

MobyZz wrote: ↑ Non Tippers will get their karma....in one way or another. Either them or people close to them. I truly believe that. What goes around comes around.

Non-Tippers have 0 sound argument, none whatsoever. They try to justify their cheapness with ineffective bullshit arguments to make themselves feel better. It doesn't work, it makes you look like a fool.

One day it'll be them doing the deliveries and they'll get shafted by the company and make little to nothing.

Laxsus wrote: ↑ You guys are free to tip 0$ all you want, just don't be surprised when that same delivery guy who you refuse to tip even a dollar shows up with your next order with his added special sauce.

Xtyle86 wrote: ↑ yup. and that precisely is why i tip. and why i avoid dark alleys at night. and why i wear condoms. parasites are everywhere in this country.

telepathy wrote: ↑
You can believe that if you want. The Karma god is as fictitious as your argument. You're working on the assumption that non-tippers aren't empathetic when there's no definitive proof. There's nothing about paying more money that makes you an inherently good person.

I know that it's only a small fraction of rfd but the extreme ends of both arguments are both terrible people and very unlikable by extension. If you posted in the thread just to shit on people, your kind aren't wanted. You're doing nothing for what you preach and ultimately make the place worse. Pick up your trash and go.

Laxsus wrote: ↑ You guys are free to tip 0$ all you want, just don't be surprised when that same delivery guy who you refuse to tip even a dollar shows up with your next order with his added special sauce.

MobyZz wrote: ↑ I know of many instances and even people I know who tamper with the orders of tipless people. Makes me smile just thinking about it.

They deserve no sympathy IMO

yao416 wrote: ↑ Then karma will get him or her for not doing their jobs