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Small light electrical question, need help!!

I am asking for advice because I tried looking on Google and not sure if it's because I'm not searching for the proper language or what but I've come here to hopefully find an answer.

I bought one of these
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I removed the frosted panel and inside are two wires (white and red).
I want to remove the LED panels from all the lights and install them underneath my kitchen cabinet. How do I connect those white and red cables to a power adapter so I can plug it in to my wall outlet? Is the current light fixture regulating the voltage through the e26 socket? How would I be able to regulate the voltage if I want to connect these without the socket and just straight into the outlet. Please and thank you.
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If I understand correctly, LED strip lights need a controller to work. You won't be able to plug them in directly. You are better of buying under cabinet lights at Ikea.
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IndyBeak wrote: If I understand correctly, LED strip lights need a controller to work. You won't be able to plug them in directly. You are better of buying under cabinet lights at Ikea.
Nah, OP just needs to mount one of these under the cabinet.....

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IndyBeak wrote: If I understand correctly, LED strip lights need a controller to work. You won't be able to plug them in directly. You are better of buying under cabinet lights at Ikea.
So the male screw base that is connected to the lights acts as the controller when plugged into the female screw base?
thriftshopper wrote: Nah, OP just needs to mount one of these under the cabinet.....

https://www.homedepot.ca/product/levito ... 1000107122
I wanted to have the led lights set up horizontally underneath my kitchen cabinet without the need of all that plastic. If I were to connect it like you described I would have to leave everything in place.
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Can I strip the end of the this cable and just hook it up to the white and red cables? using one of those USB charging blocks?

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We bought four of these ones. Motion sensor. Charge via USB. 3M tape to backside of magnetic mount. And these are removable. Done.

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OrangeBerry wrote: I am asking for advice because I tried looking on Google and not sure if it's because I'm not searching for the proper language or what but I've come here to hopefully find an answer.

I bought one of these
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I removed the frosted panel and inside are two wires (white and red).
I want to remove the LED panels from all the lights and install them underneath my kitchen cabinet. How do I connect those white and red cables to a power adapter so I can plug it in to my wall outlet? Is the current light fixture regulating the voltage through the e26 socket? How would I be able to regulate the voltage if I want to connect these without the socket and just straight into the outlet. Please and thank you.
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No, no, don't go there. The power unit and the LED panels are made to work together. You will not be able to get matching power units. You need to keep the original power supply.

There are lots of better under-cabinet LED lighting options out there, and I saw a new type at Costco recently.

2 years ago I assembled my own custom lighting using LED tapes, a power supply, and mounting hardware from Lee Valley. The components are very versatile.

https://www.leevalley.com/en-ca/shop/ha ... hting-kits

Pay attention to the LED colour spectrum and brightness or you may end up with something that looks terrible.
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Cheap strip lights at $1/foot or less and some nice track/cover up stuff from lee valley is the way to go for my next kitchen. I bought some LED puck lights from Lowes on clearance years ago that work well enough.
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Dealmaker1945 wrote: No, no, don't go there. The power unit and the LED panels are made to work together. You will not be able to get matching power units. You need to keep the original power supply.

There are lots of better under-cabinet LED lighting options out there, and I saw a new type at Costco recently.

2 years ago I assembled my own custom lighting using LED tapes, a power supply, and mounting hardware from Lee Valley. The components are very versatile.

https://www.leevalley.com/en-ca/shop/ha ... hting-kits

Pay attention to the LED colour spectrum and brightness or you may end up with something that looks terrible.
OP; Listen to this advice. Don't be dicking around trying to rewire that fixture.
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MrFrugal1 wrote: OP; Listen to this advice. Don't be dicking around trying to rewire that fixture.
We can now find cheap undercabinet led lights, why bother risking an accident or a fire messing around with this....
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Dealmaker1945 wrote:
No, no, don't go there. The power unit and the LED panels are made to work together. You will not be able to get matching power units. You need to keep the original power supply.

There are lots of better under-cabinet LED lighting options out there, and I saw a new type at Costco recently.

2 years ago I assembled my own custom lighting using LED tapes, a power supply, and mounting hardware from Lee Valley. The components are very versatile.

https://www.leevalley.com/en-ca/shop/ha ... hting-kits

Pay attention to the LED colour spectrum and brightness or you may end up with something that looks terrible.
Jerico wrote: Cheap strip lights at $1/foot or less and some nice track/cover up stuff from lee valley is the way to go for my next kitchen. I bought some LED puck lights from Lowes on clearance years ago that work well enough.
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OP; Listen to this advice. Don't be dicking around trying to rewire that fixture.
DoorCrasher wrote: We can now find cheap undercabinet led lights, why bother risking an accident or a fire messing around with this....

To be honest I was never trying to be stubborn about this idea, obviously there are far better, cheaper and quality looking lights that I can purchase for underneath my kitchen cabinet. What I didn't mention until now because I guess I have to, is that I purchased these lights to grow herbs and they have done an exceptional job in doing so. These lights were purchased on a deal through Amazon. 6000K with 6000 Lumens and I know for a fact those thin LED strips that you folks are recommended are unfortunately not the same output needed. Furthermore if I were to purchase lights (T8's) they start getting pretty expensive. These lights cost me $10 all in shipped.

This is why I was trying to get a workaround.
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OrangeBerry wrote: To be honest I was never trying to be stubborn about this idea, obviously there are far better, cheaper and quality looking lights that I can purchase for underneath my kitchen cabinet. What I didn't mention until now because I guess I have to, is that I purchased these lights to grow herbs and they have done an exceptional job in doing so. These lights were purchased on a deal through Amazon. 6000K with 6000 Lumens and I know for a fact those thin LED strips that you folks are recommended are unfortunately not the same output needed. Furthermore if I were to purchase lights (T8's) they start getting pretty expensive. These lights cost me $10 all in shipped.

This is why I was trying to get a workaround.
saving a few bucks messing around with this can lead to $$$ damages, insurance claim, injuries or even death. I don't want to look paranoid, but those lights were made for a special purpose, not for messing around with and make them look like under cabinet led lights. My opinion.
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DoorCrasher wrote: saving a few bucks messing around with this can lead to $$$ damages, insurance claim, injuries or even death. I don't want to look paranoid, but those lights were made for a special purpose, not for messing around with and make them look like under cabinet led lights. My opinion.
Yah this is why I raised the question, I didn't know the degree of how complicated this would be. I assumed because the LED board is connected to two wires that I can somehow flat them all out together into a row. Already bought these lights figured I could put them to better use. Thanks
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OrangeBerry wrote: I wanted to have the led lights set up horizontally underneath my kitchen cabinet without the need of all that plastic. If I were to connect it like you described I would have to leave everything in place.
That's the cheap arse, red neck solution, where "don't try this at home" may be one's last and final words.
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OrangeBerry wrote: So the male screw base that is connected to the lights acts as the controller when plugged into the female screw base?
Just like everyone else on this thread, I would suggest going with other options rather than trying to make this work.
However, theoretically, if you manage to open the plastic cover of that rectangular/hexagonal thing in the middle, from which all the wires are coming out, you should be able to extract the controller/power supply. If you manage to retain the exact power connection mechanism outside of this light's body, then the lights should work.
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You don't want 6000K lighting in your kitchen or any other living space.
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torontotim wrote: You don't want 6000K lighting in your kitchen or any other living space.
To grow my herbs (basil, oregano, cilantro)

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