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Solarium a good investment?

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Solarium a good investment?

Beside having enjoyment using it and the added space 10 feet x 20 feet.
Will spending 32K on a solarium enable me to sell the house for 32K or more down the road?
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I'm interested in this as well.
Wife wants a 10x10 sun room .. planing to do it as an room addition though, rather than a "sunroom kit". Just a room with windows and skylights and a fireplace for winter since it probably won't be hooked to hvac.

If we stay within the property setbacks... what else can prevent a permit? Never done it before.

Rough estimate I think 40K.
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Re ... Return on Property Value

Think it depends on the house, the lot, the Neighbourhood
As well as how good a solarium add on ... or full sunroom addition to the house

Big difference say between this
https://www.sojag.ca/en/collections/sol ... harleston/

This
https://www.homedepot.ca/product/palram ... 1001539584

And this
https://eieihome.com/articles/sunroom-u ... essential/

Or these 2

https://www.bobvila.com/slideshow/catch ... ooms-47061
https://www.budgetglass.com/sunrooms-need-know/

They are literally 4 very different types of set ups ... all grouped under the terminology ... solarium
Some are clearly separate structures ... like a backyard gazebo
Others are seasonal add ons (Like a lean to greenhouse)
Others are more of a glassed in porch ... with insulation etc
And the last category ... a completely integrated space ... into your home
Or like a Victorian Conservatory

Personally, I’m a fan of the last 3
(Lol, the most expensive options)

Have known folks who used the porch design to house their hot tub and a wood stove
Great place to enjoy on a cold winters night
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A house in the same development as mine sold for $75K above asking price and one of the feature in the home was a $9K solarium.
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vkizzle wrote: A house in the same development as mine sold for $75K above asking price and one of the feature in the home was a $9K solarium.
Wow that’s a nice return

What type of solarium ... got any pics / the listing ?
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PointsHubby wrote: Re ... Return on Property Value

Think it depends on the house, the lot, the Neighbourhood
As well as how good a solarium add on ... or full sunroom addition to the house

Big difference say between this
https://www.sojag.ca/en/collections/sol ... arleston/³

This
https://www.homedepot.ca/product/palram ... 1001539584

And this
https://eieihome.com/articles/sunroom-u ... essential/

Or these 2

https://www.bobvila.com/slideshow/catch ... ooms-47061
https://www.budgetglass.com/sunrooms-need-know/

They are literally 4 very different types of set ups ... all grouped under the terminology ... solarium
Some are clearly separate structures ... like a backyard gazebo
Others are seasonal add ons (Like a lean to greenhouse)
Others are more of a glassed in porch ... with insulation etc
And the last category ... a completely integrated space ... into your home
Or like a Victorian Conservatory

Personally, I’m a fan of the last 3
(Lol, the most expensive options)

Have known folks who used the porch design to house their hot tub and a wood stove
Great place to enjoy on a cold winters night
We were enquiring about the vista 4 season standard one which was 32K plus taxes for 10 x 20 feet.
Includes 3 crank out windows and 1 patio door installed.

https://zytco.com/solarium-standard/
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PointsHubby wrote: Wow that’s a nice return

What type of solarium ... got any pics / the listing ?
I tried searching for the listing, but they pulled it off already.
I do remember it was a 3-season solarium, that was built very well to the house, which looked like it was part of the home's design.
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cristianosham wrote: Beside having enjoyment using it and the added space 10 feet x 20 feet.
Will spending 32K on a solarium enable me to sell the house for 32K or more down the road?
Just curious, is the solarium for all seasons ? $32K seems pretty low for building a 4 seasons sunroom (I assume it is similar as solarium) for this size, where are located ? In GTA, it would be easier $60-$100K
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RFD2entertain wrote: Looking at CADK sunroom. 8x10 is on sale for 15k, not including the base structure etc, but includes installation. What do you think of the pricing?
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I remember seeing this company in the home show, I think they said this prefab sunroom costs about $30K in total . I think you should ask them for the total prices as permits, drawing, and others could cost a lot more.
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rdx wrote: Just curious, is the solarium for all seasons ? $32K seems pretty low for building a 4 seasons sunroom (I assume it is similar as solarium) for this size, where are located ? In GTA, it would be easier $60-$100K
4 seasons 32K plus taxes installed. 3 season was like 2.5K less.
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My wife doesn't like the look of the all glass vinyl room attached to our brick house. She prefers to have a custom built sunroom, with all side large windows instead, not all the way to the bottom though. Most lots from new built houses in the last 2 decades will not have enough set back clearance for building a sunroom additions, you will need to apply for a variance permit which is a long and painful process to go through the committee voting and approval, and there is nothing you can do to prevent. You can go to your City hall and they can check right away if you need a variance permit. If they do, you will need to submit drawing of your planning to start the process. I suggest you contact a company that have experience going through this process. And if you are going through this process, I suggest you to build a bigger room (that variance permit would allow) as the fixed cost and process is the same regardless.

By the way, how did you get the $40K rough estimate from ? After you talked to at least three contractors/companies, you will get an idea regarding the price, and they will give you idea what to build and the process. All I can say is that it is more complicated that you thought.
TLSRULZ wrote: I'm interested in this as well.
Wife wants a 10x10 sun room .. planing to do it as an room addition though, rather than a "sunroom kit". Just a room with windows and skylights and a fireplace for winter since it probably won't be hooked to hvac.

If we stay within the property setbacks... what else can prevent a permit? Never done it before.

Rough estimate I think 40K.
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Apr 18, 2005
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Mississauga
rdx wrote: My wife doesn't like the look of the all glass vinyl room attached to our brick house. She prefers to have a custom built sunroom, with all side large windows instead, not all the way to the bottom though. Most lots from new built houses in the last 2 decades will not have enough set back clearance for building a sunroom additions, you will need to apply for a variance permit which is a long and painful process to go through the committee voting and approval, and there is nothing you can do to prevent. You can go to your City hall and they can check right away if you need a variance permit. If they do, you will need to submit drawing of your planning to start the process. I suggest you contact a company that have experience going through this process. And if you are going through this process, I suggest you to build a bigger room (that variance permit would allow) as the fixed cost and process is the same regardless.

By the way, how did you get the $40K rough estimate from ? After you talked to at least three contractors/companies, you will get an idea regarding the price, and they will give you idea what to build and the process. All I can say is that it is more complicated that you thought.
Yea .. the variances will be the issue. I dont mind getting a GC/company to build it.. i just dont want to pay for pushing paper which i can do. So just was looking for the steps to figure out what is allowed given my lot/property.

Well when she is ready we can look at it. 40K was just my ballpark. My buddy built one at his cottage in muskoka so just going by what he spent. Of course there the permit was not an issue since they have the land.
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cristianosham wrote: 4 seasons 32K plus taxes installed. 3 season was like 2.5K less.
Nice, where are you located ? in GTA ?
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I see. I think 10 x 10 is too small, and when you have to go through the lengthy process, applying the variance permit, building permit, etc, why do you just build the bigger ? I personally would go for the biggest size the variance permit allows. FYI, variance permit alone is already $3K regardless if it is approved or not.

By the way, if you don't mind doing the coordination, you don't need to hire GC at all. Some contractors will give you quote after you get the drawing. I guess you can hire architect separately for the drawing, and submit the variance permit application yourself. But I heard architect drawing alone could be $5k-10.

Anyway, you can start getting quotes from at least three sunroom companies/contractors. The more you talk to them, the more you can find out. Just call up Four Seasons sunroom and get a ballpark figure how much it would cost you as your benchmark.
TLSRULZ wrote: Yea .. the variances will be the issue. I dont mind getting a GC/company to build it.. i just dont want to pay for pushing paper which i can do. So just was looking for the steps to figure out what is allowed given my lot/property.

Well when she is ready we can look at it. 40K was just my ballpark. My buddy built one at his cottage in muskoka so just going by what he spent. Of course there the permit was not an issue since they have the land.
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Agree. My wife also wants the sunroom to look like part of the house instead of a big glass room.


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PointsHubby wrote: Re ... Return on Property Value

Think it depends on the house, the lot, the Neighbourhood
As well as how good a solarium add on ... or full sunroom addition to the house

Big difference say between this
https://www.sojag.ca/en/collections/sol ... harleston/

This
https://www.homedepot.ca/product/palram ... 1001539584

And this
https://eieihome.com/articles/sunroom-u ... essential/

Or these 2

https://www.bobvila.com/slideshow/catch ... ooms-47061
https://www.budgetglass.com/sunrooms-need-know/

They are literally 4 very different types of set ups ... all grouped under the terminology ... solarium
Some are clearly separate structures ... like a backyard gazebo
Others are seasonal add ons (Like a lean to greenhouse)
Others are more of a glassed in porch ... with insulation etc
And the last category ... a completely integrated space ... into your home
Or like a Victorian Conservatory

Personally, I’m a fan of the last 3
(Lol, the most expensive options)

Have known folks who used the porch design to house their hot tub and a wood stove
Great place to enjoy on a cold winters night
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Lifestyle sunroom almost sold their product to us. However, they have no option other than various grades of vinyl finish. Regardless of what grade/color, at the end they are still vinyl siding, which does not mix well with our brick house. And their whole construction is basically assembling prefab panels. Electrical work is all standard as well, no option of wiring. We were asking if they can finish the exterior wall (outside of the porch area) is enclosed in the sunroom, so that we won't see the brick wall inside the sunroom, but they can't either.
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rdx wrote: Agree. My wife also wants the sunroom to look like part of the house instead of a big glass room.


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That is exactly the type if sunroom I'd like if I had one though that looks like it was built as part of the house. We were looking at options for patio/deck/covered porch etc a few years ago and I think a 3 season one (the ones that look like a seasonal add on) was $37K -- insulated floor, insulated roof, tinted vinyl plane windows screens, door, engineering permit. This did not include flooring. I would not pay $37K more for a resale house if it had that type of solarium -- but would definitely pay more if it had one that looked like the one in the photo above! (but would probably not pay as much as it actually cost)

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