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Something moved into my attic

Some animal ripped open the siding under the roof (i.e. the corner where the second story roof meets the first story). My guess is a raccoon. I've heard it through the ceiling, I'm sure it's bigger than a squirrel.

Can somebody recommend a company that ideally would handle both the pest removal and fixing the roof - I figure it's got to be done at the same time. I'm in the Guelph area.

When I bought the house 8 years ago there was clear evidence of this happening before as the attic insulation was all torn up (I had replacement insulation blown in). There were metal plates nailed in the same areas that are ripped open now, so that was not a permanent solution. Looking for someone who can do a better and permanent job.

I figure if it's a raccoon they need traps?

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JoeBlack23 wrote: Some animal ripped open the siding under the roof (i.e. the corner where the second story roof meets the first story). My guess is a raccoon. I've heard it through the ceiling, I'm sure it's bigger than a squirrel.

Can somebody recommend a company that ideally would handle both the pest removal and fixing the roof - I figure it's got to be done at the same time. I'm in the Guelph area.

When I bought the house 8 years ago there was clear evidence of this happening before as the attic insulation was all torn up (I had replacement insulation blown in). There were metal plates nailed in the same areas that are ripped open now, so that was not a permanent solution. Looking for someone who can do a better and permanent job.

I figure if it's a raccoon they need traps?
Cant help you on recommendations but show us a picture of the entrance area so we could recommend a more solid solution.
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Animal control person can install a one way door at the opening the racoon is using. When it leaves it cannot go back into your roof.
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Katedontbreak wrote: Cant help you on recommendations but show us a picture of the entrance area so we could recommend a more solid solution.
I added some pictures (sorry, a couple are upside down). You can see in some the "fix" the previous owner made, which was basically to nail down some metal sheets. I'm looking for a fool-proof solution.
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AAA Gates' Wildlife Control. Used them for a skunk problem under our deck and they were great.
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JoeBlack23 wrote: I added some pictures (sorry, a couple are upside down). You can see in some the "fix" the previous owner made, which was basically to nail down some metal sheets. I'm looking for a fool-proof solution.
If you're moderately handy, you can plug up the roof yourself, if not ask the pest control company if they can repair the soffit using a strong plywood (not OSB in our weather) after trapping the raccoon. Make sure to get the raccoon(s) out first if you want to attempt the repair yourself. It would be worth paying somebody to trap the raccoon even if you can do the repair yourself because if you trap somebody in, not only would that be inhumane, the raccoons will keep returning trying to help the trapped raccoon and keep tearing at your soffits or it may die in your roof causing a strong smell.

Use screws, not nails and avoid fastening into the side of the fascia trim like this man does (your fascia does not appear bent like the one in the video) but otherwise this is the basic method to repair that breach to keep them out.


I see a lot of pest companies install a one way door or wire mesh over the soffit but that will look a bit unsightly. They should offer this sort of repair as well after evicting the raccoon(s) if it's just easier to pay somebody else to do it.
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Racoon will sound like a person walking in the floor above you.
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Anikiri wrote: El Chupacabra
I read that as The Chewbacca...

Either way works I suppose...
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Oni-kun wrote: Racoon will sound like a person walking in the floor above you.
Yep, either I've got a raccoon or some homeless person moved in. In any case, I don't think anything else could have torn open the hole.
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Katedontbreak wrote: If you're moderately handy, you can plug up the roof yourself, if not ask the pest control company if they can repair the soffit using a strong plywood (not OSB in our weather) after trapping the raccoon. Make sure to get the raccoon(s) out first if you want to attempt the repair yourself. It would be worth paying somebody to trap the raccoon even if you can do the repair yourself because if you trap somebody in, not only would that be inhumane, the raccoons will keep returning trying to help the trapped raccoon and keep tearing at your soffits or it may die in your roof causing a strong smell.

Use screws, not nails and avoid fastening into the side of the fascia trim like this man does (your fascia does not appear bent like the one in the video) but otherwise this is the basic method to repair that breach to keep them out.


I see a lot of pest companies install a one way door or wire mesh over the soffit but that will look a bit unsightly. They should offer this sort of repair as well after evicting the raccoon(s) if it's just easier to pay somebody else to do it.
Yah, not that handy especially on a roof - I don't want my tombstone to say a raccoon was the source of my demise. That's why I was looking for a recommendation.
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So I found a local company online and called them. They will install the one way door, wait a few days, then fix up the roof with a 5 year guaranty, all for $400 + HST.
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if there's no tree around your house and exterior siding = hardie plank combined with roof with overhang.....can racoon or other rodents still climb up to your roof and possibly enter your attic?
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Fantastical wrote: if there's no tree around your house and exterior siding = hardie plank combined with roof with overhang.....can racoon or other rodents still climb up to your roof and possibly enter your attic?
With siding in general, under the starting course

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and the corner are vulnerable rodent entry points.

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Any junction points between two different materials that can move apart or flex

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They don't always get into the roof from the roof. They also get into the gap between your exterior wall and inner foundation wall from a lower entrance point and climb up to the roof through that gap.

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Thanks. Very detail and makes perfect sense.

But, back to the question, if there's no tree around and the exterior siding wall is relatively smooth (e.g. Hardie plank siding) combined with roof with overhang, can rodents (e.g. racoon or mice) climb up to the roof through the exterior siding wall?
Katedontbreak wrote: With siding in general, under the starting course

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and the corner are vulnerable rodent entry points.

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Any junction points between two different materials that can move apart or flex

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They don't always get into the roof from the roof. They also get into the gap between your exterior wall and inner foundation wall from a lower entrance point and climb up to the roof through that gap.

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yes. I’ve seen raccoons climb the downspout to get to the roof. Depending on the brick they might also be able to climb on brick as well.
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Fantastical wrote: Thanks. Very detail and makes perfect sense.

But, back to the question, if there's no tree around and the exterior siding wall is relatively smooth (e.g. Hardie plank siding) combined with roof with overhang, can rodents (e.g. racoon or mice) climb up to the roof through the exterior siding wall?
Yes. They climb up the corners. Raccoons from the outside and mice from the inside. Mice will also climb up internet cables.
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Wonivek wrote: yes. I’ve seen raccoons climb the downspout to get to the roof. Depending on the brick they might also be able to climb on brick as well.
Both raccoons and mice easily climb up bricks and concrete or stone. Porus materials are very easy for them to climb. With slippery surfaces like siding, raccoons scale by grabbing the sides of the corner capping or wrapping their legs around downspouts. Mice will typically enter these from underneath and use the jagged edges to scale from the inside.
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Katedontbreak wrote: Both raccoons and mice easily climb up bricks and concrete or stone. Porus materials are very easy for them to climb. With slippery surfaces like siding, raccoons scale by grabbing the sides of the corner capping or wrapping their legs around downspouts. Mice will typically enter these from underneath and use the jagged edges to scale from the inside.
There's no tree close by. There's a wood fence abutting the wall and it was pushed inwards to the property - I thought it occurred from my neighbour leaning things against it, but maybe that is a sign that the raccoon used it as a "launching" point. The brick facing of the wall is very rough so I guess there would be a lot of handholds for an animal.

I'm hoping the guy who comes tomorrow can recommend some solutions on top of reinforcing the roof area where he got in.

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