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Sony Releases New A6400 Mirrorless Camera With Flip Out Screen

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Sony Releases New A6400 Mirrorless Camera With Flip Out Screen

It will cost about $1350 Canadian for body only and claims to have the fastest autofocus system in existence for a camera. It has a flip out screen for vlogging like Canon cameras and it can do 4k at 30 fps. Still the same 24.2 megapixel sensor.

My first question is why a dedicated $1350 body only camera can only do 4k at 30 fps when an iPhone can do 4k at 60 fps? And why do Canon cameras suck so much that they can't even do 4k at all?

Also, why not just get the full frame Sony A7R ii for less than the cost of this APSC sized A6400?

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Perhaps you should develop your own camera instead of asking why?
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The sensor on even an APS-C camera is about 20x bigger than the sensor on an iPhone.
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JHW wrote: The sensor on even an APS-C camera is about 20x bigger than the sensor on an iPhone.
Also, I’m sure the bitrate is a lot higher than an iPhone
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JoeStale wrote: Also, why not just get the full frame Sony A7R ii for less than the cost of this APSC sized A6400?
Where?
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JoeStale is like an anti-vacciner believing vaccines cause autism. He has stubbornly decided that camera phones are somehow superior to dSLRs despite physics, and deflecting all arguments to the contrary, finding whatever article or angle he can find to promote his view.

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JoeStale wrote: And why do Canon cameras suck so much that they can't even do 4k at all?

Also, why not just get the full frame Sony A7R ii for less than the cost of this APSC sized A6400?

https://www.theverge.com/2019/1/15/1818 ... tube-price
First of all, Canon doesn't like to eat away from the potential sales of their higher end bodies. You like Canon ergonomics, color science and len collection, you need to pay up for the bodies. That's how Canon runs their show. Sony on the other hand doesn't GAF.

The A7RII is a 43 Megapixel Full Frame. Its meant for the landscape/product photographer primarily.

This a6400 is aimed for the YouTube blogger, hence the flippy screen. These cameras are targeted for different markets.
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rebel_rfd wrote: First of all, Canon doesn't like to eat away from the potential sales of their higher end bodies. You like Canon ergonomics, color science and len collection, you need to pay up for the bodies. That's how Canon runs their show. Sony on the other hand doesn't GAF.
But it seems like Canon is quickly dying and losing market share while Sony is expanding their camera lines. Sony is putting 4k into all their cameras, silent shooting in any mode, and in body image stabilization into many of them. Canon has none of this or a really crappy implementation of it. I can't see why any enthusiast or pro would even consider Canon cameras at this point given how much more you get with a Sony.
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JoeStale wrote: But it seems like Canon is quickly dying and losing market share while Sony is expanding their camera lines. Sony is putting 4k into all their cameras, silent shooting in any mode, and in body image stabilization into many of them. Canon has none of this or a really crappy implementation of it. I can't see why any enthusiast or pro would even consider Canon cameras at this point given how much more you get with a Sony.
Yet most of the most known pros shoot Canon. It's not only about the performance that dictates what the best system is. You wouldn't know since you never dwelved in the pro world. I don't pretend to know what plumbing tools are best, same reason why you shouldn't make any jdugement on photography gear.
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Flash news: it's not because a camera can't do 4K that it sucks.

Your trolling smartphones vs cameras was funny at first but it gets annoying.
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kangmlee wrote: Yet most of the most known pros shoot Canon. It's not only about the performance that dictates what the best system is. You wouldn't know since you never dwelved in the pro world. I don't pretend to know what plumbing tools are best, same reason why you shouldn't make any jdugement on photography gear.
But wouldn't you agree there is a big trend of moving from Canon to Sony? Even I see on Kijiji that there are lots of people saying they are selling their Canon gear because they moved to Sony.
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mattnew wrote: Flash news: it's not because a camera can't do 4K that it sucks.

Your trolling smartphones vs cameras was funny at first but it gets annoying.
Then forget I compared the 4k to a smartphone and ask why the Sony is only 4k 30fps in this day and age for a dedicated camera that is $1350 with no lens.
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JoeStale wrote: But wouldn't you agree there is a big trend of moving from Canon to Sony? Even I see on Kijiji that there are lots of people saying they are selling their Canon gear because they moved to Sony.
There is but mostly on the prosumer level. Sony does it great on paper, in practice that's a different thing. They're amazing but not quite there in terms of pro servicing/presence.
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JoeStale wrote: Then forget I compared the 4k to a smartphone and ask why the Sony is only 4k 30fps in this day and age for a dedicated camera that is $1350 with no lens.
Because 4k on a larger sensor produces a lot more heat and requires a lot more CPU power. In many cameras including Panasonic, the autofocus slows down in 4k, produces a lot more heat and has more rolling shutter.

Current high fps cameras (ie 5000fps) have much smaller sensors

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