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Aug 26, 2004
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almostfreeman wrote:I am considering adding some ram. I know I need DDR pc 3200 but I'm not sure what the CL #'s mean.... :confused:
The CL is a timing rating for RAM, just like the PC3200 is a speed rating. I can link up some RAM guides if you are interested, but basically the lower the numbers, the 'tighter the timing', the better the performance. However, for the vast majority of people, it doesn't make a huge difference, it really only matters to those that want bragging rights or want to be able to do some serious overclocking.

If you are buying more RAM to add to your computer, you probably won't know what the original stuff is rated at, so even if you buy faster RAM its only going to operate at the slower rated stuff. I'd suggest trying to get something like 3-3-3-x (the last number isn't as important) or lower, unless you're going for DDR2 then as you can see, its harder (and a lot more expensive) to buy lower rated stuff.

I bought some 2-2-2-5 OCZ the other year and I love it, and its great for overclocking, but in hindsight, it was well over twice as expensive as alternatives and part of me can't help but think the I would have gotten more bang for the buck doubling the amount of RAM I had vs. buying faster RAM (or with tighter timings, as its referred to).

Its a tough choice. My reccomendation is to do a few google searches with the brand and model you have in mind, along with the motherboard you currently have in your computer, just to make sure that there aren't any real problems (back in the day, nforce2 boards didn't like GEIL RAM all that much, although YMMV), and if you want to buy two sticks to run dual, its a better bet to buy a matched pair. In reality you probably won't run into problems, but its not really any pricier and once in a while two individual sticks will not play well together. The brands that [rfdlink=/forums/autolink/redirectpage.php?linkid=28]NCIX[/rfdlink] has on sale this week are all good names too, which is nice.

Hope that makes things a bit clearer. Let me know if you need any other help.
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Aug 26, 2004
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Lalalalalalalafontaine wrote:Btw, anyone have experience with the MS Comfort USB Keyboard + USB 4-way scroll mouse for $23 ? http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php? ... =Microsoft
I've bought a few for my clients in the past little while and they all seem to like them. The curve is slightly ergonomic so I assume its a little easier on the hands but its not like a full split keyboard so there's no learning curve when switching to it. The keys are nice to press, not too clicky or mushy. The mouse doesn't have a thumb button though, which is my main complaint with it.

For $23, its hard to go wrong.
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Nov 11, 2004
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Keigotw wrote:Does anyone have this one??
nGear 4 Port USB 2.0 HI-SPEED Hub W/ AC Adapter $9.99

can you tell me if the casing is metal? or is plastic?

the outer casing looks plastic to me...
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Jon Lai wrote:That's interesting to know. I'm obviously "unprofessional" then since DVD+R is by far the only format I've used and bought.

Is there any special reason why though? I've burnt -Rs before (just never bought them) and with my dvd burning career I've seen better performances with +Rs than with similar -R models.
Well, do you work in any professional industry? Most consumers have a VERY hard time understanding the professional market, and vice versa.

You have to remember something here. DVD-R came first, by a significant margin. A lot of professionals started with DVD-RA (DVD-R for authoring), and then moved to DVD-R for general purpose. When 2x DVD-Rs came out, DVD+RW finally arrived, as a Data only format. Then, before 4x DVD-Rs hit the market, DVD+RW made a surprise switch and created DVD+R, and the option of a video format. By this time, most companies had already bought into DVD-R, and didn't want to switch to a whole new thing (remember there were no dual format drives yet!). By the point where DVD+R finally reached the same compatability level as DVD-R (with the help of bitsetting, which most professionals can't do for various reasons), nobody saw any reason to both switching to it, since it was really a very equivilant product to DVD-R only, and offered nothing as a serious advantage.

Now *SOME* companies WILL order DVD+R, usually in VERY small quantities, just as an option for some of their niche clients. Since, like say with Apple computers, there are some VERY serious die hard DVD+RW Alliance fans out there, who really bought into the propaganda from the beginning, sometimes companies have to make exceptions. But on the whole, DVD-R is the accepted format and standard of the professional world. Whereas in the consumer world in North America, DVD-R outsells DVD+R by 10 to 1, in the professional world, the ratio is actually greater then 1000 to 1.
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Current suggested recordable media?
CD-Rs = Maxell CD-R Pro, Verbatim Datalife+, Falcon Media Pro
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Oct 25, 2002
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Keigotw wrote:Does anyone have this one??
nGear 4 Port USB 2.0 HI-SPEED Hub W/ AC Adapter $9.99

can you tell me if the casing is metal? or is plastic?

Its plastic. I got one and it looks like it might crack if you drop it. :lol:


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