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crimsondr wrote: The advantage of Plex is the UI. It's a great interface. I also use it to view my media on any device. The syncing feature is great as well. It will automatically download new episodes to my iPad which I can then watch offline while on the go train.
the client sucks tho. no embedded subs support no support for legacy codec. Thats the problem with all of them emby and jellyfin too. Looking pretty vs working right. Its better more reliable to use the plex addon in kodi for perfect reliable playback. Otherwise your stuck running an external player and then you now have 2 points of problems from one app. It helps to use external player works better too but if and when a problem happens you have to 2 areas of issues to investigate to find source.
willy0275 wrote: Wow thanks for the explanation, "Vero bro" Smiling Face With Open Mouth So even a "weak" device would be able to watch 4K HEVC feeds because the transcoding is done remotely. That's a nice advantage, but since I only watch my media on my TV, the Vero 4K with Kodi is all I need! I also have the Shield TV for its nice "native Android" features like Youtube, but my Vero 4K is my main device for Kodi, I love it!
you transcode 4k you lose image quality like hdr. So even plex recommends don't transcode 4k. The vero 4k plus can playback almost equal to the shield maybe more except DV. It just doesn't have support for subscription based apps like netflix. I use an s905x3 it only cost me at the time 45 cad. It can playback the same as either. Maybe Sam tweaked for 3d support with osmc otherwise I think my s905x3 supports more like dolby vision and av1.
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lead wrote: the client sucks tho. no embedded subs support no support for legacy codec. Thats the problem with all of them emby and jellyfin too. Looking pretty vs working right. Its better more reliable to use the plex addon in kodi for perfect reliable playback. Otherwise your stuck running an external player and then you now have 2 points of problems from one app. It helps to use external player works better too but if and when a problem happens you have to 2 areas of issues to investigate to find source.
Plex app on pro can direct play everything I throw at it with subs. That's why I purchased the shield to begin with. Maybe the codecs I'm using are not legacy.
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b31770 wrote: Food for thought for Plex/Jellyfin/Emby users.

I'd just get the tube and put the savings toward a sufficiently powered NAS. Run Plex/JF/Emby on the NAS and it'll serve and store the media, because you know, you'll need a place to store the media, right?

I'd only get the pro if you need to run 64bit apps.
who stores media? do people watch stuff more than once? i used to have a library, but now with real internet and all the streaming stuff and offline play, there's no point in wasting my HDD space.
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i have one of these shield TV's its really good for normal casual use with apps and streaming services, wife loves the interface... but i really want the pro for our main TV, if staples ever had that in stock with the coupon i'd be on board for that.
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crimsondr wrote: Plex app on pro can direct play everything I throw at it with subs. That's why I purchased the shield to begin with. Maybe the codecs I'm using are not legacy.
not all embedded subs thru direct play. Its encoded in the stream.Unless it was encoded exactly to what their player can read otherwise The little circle will just go around and say fail. Irritating enough to not want to pay for it. Plus jellyfin is free, opensource no call home cloud so what ever irks it has I can't complain about free .

With say old legacy codec it will be choppy or fail too which also happens in kodi too. The reason is the client needs to determine on its own when time to use hardware and when software. The quick easy fix is vlc player. The geeky fix is an xml where you would manually define what and how to play like say all sd play in software only. But legacy codec in hd size adds more to it then. Then you have divx and xvid and mpeg etc and where once it was natively supported its been dropped since most common hardware doesn't pay for many mpeg based licenses as they can muscle thru them with out it so its down to client player.
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T3rry wrote: i have one of these shield TV's its really good for normal casual use with apps and streaming services, wife loves the interface... but i really want the pro for our main TV, if staples ever had that in stock with the coupon i'd be on board for that.
Best Buy have it in stock for 259.99
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T3rry wrote: who stores media? do people watch stuff more than once? i used to have a library, but now with real internet and all the streaming stuff and offline play, there's no point in wasting my HDD space.
(blush)

One of my media drives for my Plex server fried a few weeks ago.
It contained all my pre 1990 movies, many which were collected over a decade ago.
It pretty much triggered a major trimming of my library (for everything 90s+).
So many movies I will never ever watch again, and so many that I never watched even once.
DELETE!!!!
For my rebuild (of lost movies), only snagging the ones I really treasure, in 1080p remux, for optimal viewing on my projection screen.

Finally watched a remux of The Irishman on my screen (with Pro AI enhancement) - boy, those guys sure looked old while they were young, lol. Was hoping the AI would magically trim some years.
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I have a 2017 version, still in the box, not gotten around to using it yet.

Anyone have a great article/video, etc on how to get the most out of this? (IPTV, etc)

I have the controller and just subscribed to GeForce Now as well, so looking forward to getting it set up.
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T3rry wrote: who stores media? do people watch stuff more than once? i used to have a library, but now with real internet and all the streaming stuff and offline play, there's no point in wasting my HDD space.
What is real internet? Most people have had 300+ or 600+ speeds for a long time now.

Are these so-called streaming stuff in BR quality? Guess what, everyone has different needs. If low quality streaming sites work for you, you do you.
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b31770 wrote: What is real internet? Most people have had 300+ or 600+ speeds for a long time now.

Are these so-called streaming stuff in BR quality? Guess what, everyone has different needs. If low quality streaming sites work for you, you do you.
So, I should do me, but you can make suggestions to people in this thread which are a completely different approach than what the shield TV offers... alright then... I guess its a 1 way street on that "you do you" comment.
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T3rry wrote: So, I should do me, but you can make suggestions to people in this thread which are a completely different approach than what the shield TV offers... alright then... I guess its a 1 way street on that "you do you" comment.
"Food for thought for Plex/Jellyfin/Emby users."

Wasn't this my very first sentence? Food for thought means something to think about... And the Plex/JF/Emby part pretty much refers to people who have media collections.

And yes, you're free to store or not store media. Watch in 4k, BR, or ,720p. I don't think either of us will lose sleep either way. But as my comment, as explained above, solely referred to people who have media collections, didn't reference you in any way.

But let's not pretend that people don't have their personal reasons for storing media. Say I want to stay at the cabin for 2 or 3 weeks and there's intermittent internet? Inevitably we'll want to have a movie night or two. Kind of difficult to steam a movie don't you think?
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b31770 wrote: But let's not pretend that people don't have their personal reasons for storing media. Say I want to stay at the cabin for 2 or 3 weeks and there's intermittent internet? Inevitably we'll want to have a movie night or two. Kind of difficult to steam a movie don't you think?
isn't that the point of download for offline use on all the major streaming platforms?... as i said previously...


not sure how your NAS is gonna help you at the cabin...
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T3rry wrote: isn't that the point of download for offline use on all the major streaming platforms?... as i said previously...
I've tried to read a few of your posts but I can't decipher your English, sadly.
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willy0275 wrote: I've tried to read a few of your posts but I can't decipher your English, sadly.
sorry our school system failed you.
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T3rry wrote: isn't that the point of download for offline use on all the major streaming platforms?... as i said previously...


not sure how your NAS is gonna help you at the cabin...
Okay, we're beyond the point of no return now. Some people choose to have a movie collection and some people choose to stream only. There are no right or wrong way...

I thought the whole point of bringing movies up to the cabin would have been fairly obvious.

a) Most people only have Netflix. But Netflix has a shitty movie selection.
b) How would I know ahead of time what the group wants to watch?

Copying a load of unwatched and some random stuff to an old NAS that you don't mind losing makes it easier to have a spontaneous movie night. But we're so off topic now it is rediculous.

The point is, the tube is a great choice for Plex/JF users if you couple that with a sufficiently powered NAS. Else a pro would be best. Figure out what combination works for you.

If you don't have a movie collection, do you even need an Nvidia Shield for streaming Netflix and Prime? I'd save my money and get a Fire Stick 4k instead?
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b31770 wrote: Okay, we're beyond the point of no return now. Some people choose to have a movie collection and some people choose to stream only. There are no right or wrong way...

I thought the whole point of bringing movies up to the cabin would have been fairly obvious.

a) Most people only have Netflix. But Netflix has a shitty movie selection.
b) How would I know ahead of time what the group wants to watch?

Copying a load of unwatched and some random stuff to an old NAS that you don't mind losing makes it easier to have a spontaneous movie night. But we're so off topic now it is rediculous.

The point is, the tube is a great choice for Plex/JF users if you couple that with a sufficiently powered NAS. Else a pro would be best. Figure out what combination works for you.

If you don't have a movie collection, do you even need an Nvidia Shield for streaming Netflix and Prime? I'd save my money and get a Fire Stick 4k instead?
ok so somehow having a NAS at home while you're at the cabin with an 8gb tube, and want to watch bluray remuxes when you dont know what anybody wants to watch.... somehow helps you..... you're just all over the place bud
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T3rry wrote: ok so somehow having a NAS at home while you're at the cabin with an 8gb tube, and want to watch bluray remuxes when you dont know what anybody wants to watch.... somehow helps you..... you're just all over the place bud
T3rry wrote: sorry our school system failed you.
I think your most recent post makes it clear whom the school system has failed. You do not even attempt to come close to proper grammar.

I don’t understand why you’re so offended by the thought that people, myself included, do not agree with you and choose to store media. We use a lot of Netflix in our home but it certainly does not fill our needs in the slightest so we also collect media. Could we stream everything we want to watch? Maybe, but I don’t feel like paying for 10 different streaming services to accomplish that. It is only becoming worse as more and more networks want their own service which fragments the market and shrinks the libraries of other services. In my opinion the current trend is really only making it harder to watch all the things one might want. I feel like having a media collection is only going to become more relevant again. That’s hardly an offensive thought and I am not offended by your stance that streaming fills your needs.
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I store media for several reasons. Even if I belonged to Netflix, disney +, prime video, Hbo now and Hulu I still would not have access to all the media I want and cost me a fortune every month. There is also the issue of video compression which I simply cannot stand and the lossy audio along with it. So there are many reasons one would want to store their own media.

I have over 300 4k rips. Where am I going to stream that?
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ChicoQuente wrote: I don’t understand why you’re so offended by the thought that people, myself included, do not agree with you and choose to store media. We use a lot of Netflix in our home but it certainly does not fill our needs in the slightest so we also collect media. Could we stream everything we want to watch? Maybe, but I don’t feel like paying for 10 different streaming services to accomplish that. It is only becoming worse as more and more networks want their own service which fragments the market and shrinks the libraries of other services. In my opinion the current trend is really only making it harder to watch all the things one might want. I feel like having a media collection is only going to become more relevant again. That’s hardly an offensive thought and I am not offended by your stance that streaming fills your needs.
Those are all good reasons why someone would want to store their media. Also, there's occurrences of some TV shows and movies being pulled from Netflix every now and then. We certainly don't want to depend on corporations to decide what we can watch and when. The other important reason for me is that I often store 2160p HEVC movies that have a much higher bitrate than Netflix 4K provides, and that extra bitrate makes a (although subtle) difference on a 65"+ TV especially with HDR.
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ChicoQuente wrote: I think your most recent post makes it clear whom the school system has failed. You do not even attempt to come close to proper grammar.

I don’t understand why you’re so offended by the thought that people, myself included, do not agree with you and choose to store media. We use a lot of Netflix in our home but it certainly does not fill our needs in the slightest so we also collect media. Could we stream everything we want to watch? Maybe, but I don’t feel like paying for 10 different streaming services to accomplish that. It is only becoming worse as more and more networks want their own service which fragments the market and shrinks the libraries of other services. In my opinion the current trend is really only making it harder to watch all the things one might want. I feel like having a media collection is only going to become more relevant again. That’s hardly an offensive thought and I am not offended by your stance that streaming fills your needs.
Well sir, your grammarly subscription sure is paying off. Or perhaps not, considering you edited your post twice to correct errors.

Pretentious much?
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