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starting in photography. Need advice on which camera to pick

So these past 2-3 weeks, I've been checking a lot of different models, doing lots of research and I just can't seem to pick one.
When I first started searching I was looking toward either a Nikon D5300 or D5500, then I learned about mirrorless, checked other dslr and the choices became that much more.

I'd like to buy it this week, I'm on vacation and wanted to use that time to get into it. Primary goal would be to shoot landscape. I'm also interested in close up shots of animals/nature and have also been contemplating getting into astrophotography.

My budget would be $1500 max. Here are some models I'm interested in.

Sony A6000: https://www.lozeau.com/en-CA/products/p ... 210mm-oss/
Fuji X-T10: https://www.lozeau.com/en-CA/products/p ... f28-4-ois/
Nikon D7200: https://www.lozeau.com/en-CA/products/p ... -140mm-vr/

I'm open to any other models.

- Sony A6000 comes with 2 lens for Under $1000 which is pretty nice and I've read a lot of good things about it.
- The Fuji X-T10 is coming out this week, Fuji seems to be known for their nice colors so I have to say I've been really interested in this brand. Saw some shots from the X-T1 which looked really nice and sharp. The X-T10 has the exact same sensor so am I right in saying image quality would be identical to the X-T1?
- Nikon D7200 seems to be a great choice, newer and been getting great reviews praising it's image quality tho at a higher price than those above.


So ya I'm a bit lost right now, so I really need help picking the best kit for my needs, some advices about good cheap lens would be nice too.


Thank you!
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tonroid wrote: So these past 2-3 weeks, I've been checking a lot of different models, doing lots of research and I just can't seem to pick one.
When I first started searching I was looking toward either a Nikon D5300 or D5500, then I learned about mirrorless, checked other dslr and the choices became that much more.

I'd like to buy it this week, I'm on vacation and wanted to use that time to get into it. Primary goal would be to shoot landscape. I'm also interested in close up shots of animals/nature and have also been contemplating getting into astrophotography.

My budget would be $1500 max. Here are some models I'm interested in.

Sony A6000: https://www.lozeau.com/en-CA/products/p ... 210mm-oss/
Fuji X-T10: https://www.lozeau.com/en-CA/products/p ... f28-4-ois/
Nikon D7200: https://www.lozeau.com/en-CA/products/p ... -140mm-vr/

I'm open to any other models.

- Sony A6000 comes with 2 lens for Under $1000 which is pretty nice and I've read a lot of good things about it.
- The Fuji X-T10 is coming out this week, Fuji seems to be known for their nice colors so I have to say I've been really interested in this brand. Saw some shots from the X-T1 which looked really nice and sharp. The X-T10 has the exact same sensor so am I right in saying image quality would be identical to the X-T1?
- Nikon D7200 seems to be a great choice, newer and been getting great reviews praising it's image quality tho at a higher price than those above.


So ya I'm a bit lost right now, so I really need help picking the best kit for my needs, some advices about good cheap lens would be nice too.


Thank you!
Fuji lenses are expensive.
Olympus Omd10 is also known for great jpeg colour and tons of lenses.
I love the A6000 features but lenses are few and expensive.

hard choice... im in the same boat as you !
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deadprez wrote: Fuji lenses are expensive.
Olympus Omd10 is also known for great jpeg colour and tons of lenses.
I love the A6000 features but lenses are few and expensive.

hard choice... im in the same boat as you !
Ya been checking some Olympus aswell, E-M1 body is $1100, if I could get a nice lens with it, it could be a nice choice too, would be close to the max of my budget tho. It's why the a6000 deal which comes with 2 lens at $940 is pretty attractive, tho I don't know how good those lens are. Still I want the best quality possible within my budget so if spending a few extra hundreds more mean better quality, I'm willing to do it.
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The 55-210 is nice for zoom lens.
However you are out of luck for low light photography with the kit and 55-210.
You could get a Sigma prime for cheap as well... that would help you out.
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tonroid wrote: Ya been checking some Olympus aswell, E-M1 body is $1100, if I could get a nice lens with it, it could be a nice choice too, would be close to the max of my budget tho. It's why the a6000 deal which comes with 2 lens at $940 is pretty attractive, tho I don't know how good those lens are. Still I want the best quality possible within my budget so if spending a few extra hundreds more mean better quality, I'm willing to do it.
Olympus fanboy here: Get the Olympus!

Their kit lenses are actually pretty sweet and overall size of the whole system still outshines others. Yes the Sony is great as well, I like that system but if budget is a concern go Olympus plus it's still more enjoyable. Lens selection still wins
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Mirrorless has been out for a while, so there might be a good used market now for lenses and accessories.

I shoot Canon, but almost all my L lenses are used. The body you will want to buy with an intact warranty.
If I were to start over, I'd probably go mirrorless, and at some point I might jump to Sony's new 4K offerings.

If you are completely new to digital photography and aren't familiar with terms like Aperture, Shutter Speed, ISO, etc, I'd encourage you to take a course like John Greengo's 5d CreativeLive one, it'll leap frog you all the fundamentals before you develop any bad habits and basically teach you exactly what to do for each situation. For instance, whenever I shoot landscape, I choose particular times of day, focus 1/3 up and use foreground interest at a small aperture. And if there's water, I may use a longer shutter speed to make it creamy, that commonly overexposes the image so I'll also use an ND filter (like sunglasses).
It's not really a course but a series of long videos where he is in a teaching environment and honestly, there is no one else out there with as many comprehensive slides especially if you are visual learner.

Happy shooting!
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Oh, since you primarily want to do landscape, set a small part of your budget on a good tripod, a travel one if you plan on that, such as the Mefoto Roadtrip. You will need it for slow shutter speeds too long for handheld.

Once you pick a body, the great A&P RFD community here can point you to a nice wide angle lens if budget allows, or later.
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bhrm wrote: Olympus fanboy here: Get the Olympus!

Their kit lenses are actually pretty sweet and overall size of the whole system still outshines others. Yes the Sony is great as well, I like that system but if budget is a concern go Olympus plus it's still more enjoyable. Lens selection still wins
Hmm How are Olympus as far as astrophotography goes. Image quality wise for landscape how's the E-M1 compared to the A6000. Does it make a difference that the a6000 is 24MP vs the E-M1's 16 as far as noises goes, quality...etc

I did some reasearch and I think the E-M1 is the higher end ver. between the E-M10 and E-M5 mk2 right? How's the E-M10 compare to it and the a6000 and do you have a good lens in mind for those Olympus if I were to take the body only.
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AncasterRFD wrote: Oh, since you primarily want to do landscape, set a small part of your budget on a good tripod, a travel one if you plan on that, such as the Mefoto Roadtrip. You will need it for slow shutter speeds too long for handheld.

Once you pick a body, the great A&P RFD community here can point you to a nice wide angle lens if budget allows, or later.
Thank you and ya a good tripod is definitly something I'll get with it.
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tonroid wrote: Hmm How are Olympus as far as astrophotography goes. Image quality wise for landscape how's the E-M1 compared to the A6000. Does it make a difference that the a6000 is 24MP vs the E-M1's 16 as far as noises goes, quality...etc

I did some reasearch and I think the E-M1 is the higher end ver. between the E-M10 and E-M5 mk2 right? How's the E-M10 compare to it and the a6000 and do you have a good lens in mind for those Olympus if I were to take the body only.
Astrophotography i have zero experience with however I do know Olympus was one of the first to have built in shutter timer up to 4 hours, where other cameras required you to buy expensive and lame remotes.

Landscape will come down to lens quality, the Panasonic 7-14mm f4 is highly coveted for landscape. I use the Olympus 12mm f2 mainly and a Panasonic 20mm f1.7, makes for a great travel package.
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deadprez wrote: The 55-210 is nice for zoom lens.
However you are out of luck for low light photography with the kit and 55-210.
You could get a Sigma prime for cheap as well... that would help you out.
thanks for the info. Well judging by the comments here it seems I'll atleast go mirrorless which is the kind of camera I was leaning toward to.
Is there a good lens that can do both landscape aswell as do good zoom shots or is it preferable going for 1 lens for each of those situations. Just trying to see if I could start with one lens and eventually buy another one down the line, would save me some money atleast for the start
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bhrm wrote: Astrophotography i have zero experience with however I do know Olympus was one of the first to have built in shutter timer up to 4 hours, where other cameras required you to buy expensive and lame remotes.

Landscape will come down to lens quality, the Panasonic 7-14mm f4 is highly coveted for landscape. I use the Olympus 12mm f2 mainly and a Panasonic 20mm f1.7, makes for a great travel package.
Nice thx for the info. How are prices for Panasonic lens compare to the competition. And what about Fuji, any good landscape lens for the new X-T10
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Those are 3 completely different cameras made for different uses.

Have you seen them in person yet? If not, do it. That should always be your first move.
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Mirrorless cameras seem to be all the rage right now. Have you considered getting a Canon dslr?
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Your first camera should be a super zoom. Something like a Coolpix L840. http://www.nikonusa.com/en/Nikon-Produc ... -L840.html I think you can get it at Best Buy for $230 if you price match with amazon.

Don't be spending money on glass until you know what you want. All "starter" DSLR cameras are overpriced, so do not go that way. You will find what you are looking for with the L840, and when there is something that the L840 cannot do for you, you can then consider getting a good DSLR and the glass that goes with it. The L840 can do 95% of what a good DSLR can do, just much cheaper and more conveniently.

I have personally stayed with my Nikon L820, because I am an amateur, and it serves my needs. I now know what I want from DSLR if I ever decide to go that way, and frankly, it is not worth it for me. Better to spend under $300 to find that out.
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bridonca wrote: Your first camera should be a super zoom. Something like a Coolpix L840. http://www.nikonusa.com/en/Nikon-Produc ... -L840.html I think you can get it at Best Buy for $230 if you price match with amazon.

Don't be spending money on glass until you know what you want. All "starter" DSLR cameras are overpriced, so do not go that way. You will find what you are looking for with the L840, and when there is something that the L840 cannot do for you, you can then consider getting a good DSLR and the glass that goes with it. The L840 can do 95% of what a good DSLR can do, just much cheaper and more conveniently.

I have personally stayed with my Nikon L820, because I am an amateur, and it serves my needs. I now know what I want from DSLR if I ever decide to go that way, and frankly, it is not worth it for me. Better to spend under $300 to find that out.
hmm not sure, maybe that's the logical way to start, but I don't really want to spend money on something and then spend money again on another camera soon after. I'd really like to buy something that'll last me a while. The a6000 at $700, the Olympus E-M10 at $600, the Fuji X-A2 at $600 or if I want to spend even less, there's the a5000 for $400, all those have access to more lens which gives me options. Seems like better deals for me than the L840.

Think I'll forget about the D7200 tho. A bit pricey and I pretty much made up my mind to go for a mirrorless.
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For astrophotography you want good low light performance. To get good low light you want as big a sensor as you can afford. Olympus and Panasonic use micro 4/3 sensors which are smaller than the APS-C sensors that are in the Nikon, Fuji, and Sony.

Personally I'd go with the Sony the A6000 is a bit long in the tooth but still a great camera for the money. I edit all my photos in lightroom so jpeg quality means nothing to me. Lenses can be a bit expensive for the sony, but there are lots of adapters for getting old cheap manual focus lenses which are really fun.
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NewsyL wrote: what?
The A6000 was released in Feb 2014 (I think). That's well over a year and in Sony camera terms that's ancient. With most of their products they'd have at least a minor product release between now and then (i.e A5000 and A5100), but they haven't. I've been hearing rumours of a replacement for well over 6 months now, and other rumours are they're having problems with the replacement and hence why it's taking so long. That said the A6000 was REALLY good when it came out so it's still very good especially considering it's dropped in price.

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