State of emergency - home renos

Red_Army wrote: ↑ https://ontarioconstructionnews.com/cov ... -outlined/

Residential construction projects where,
a footing permit has been granted for single family, semi-detached and townhomes
the project is a condominium, mixed use or other residential building, or
the project involves renovations to residential properties and construction work was started before January 12, 2021.

exrcoupe wrote: ↑ This - page 24. https://files.ontario.ca/moh-enhanced-p ... -12-v2.pdf

I found this online today and from what I read, if the renovation job was started before today, it can continue, otherwise, no new jobs can start until the end of the stay at home orders.

mrweather wrote: ↑ That sucks. I have a co-worker who is scheduled to have windows and siding replaced starting tomorrow (Jan 13). Guess that ain't happening now...

Jerico wrote: ↑ I’m 100% sure, just as last time, there will be all kinds of rule shirkers. The whole “30% arent following the rules” will continue unabated. We followed the rules and didnt work last time and lost a tonne of work to those that did. Quite frankly it pisses me off. One of our suppliers stayed open, considering themselves “essential”. For a little karma, they got shut down by their regional health authority for 2 weeks in Sept/Oct sometime. I am sure they wont shut again this time. The cops dont have time for this crap.

All I heard today was “Things are going to get worse. Some people arent following the rules. Here are some more rules for those that follow, and those that didnt follow the previous rules arent going to follow these either and things will get worse”

In summary, I bet good money those guys will still start tomorrow. Windows can be done in a day, siding is a 2 week job. I hope someone calls the cops on them. Nothing will be done until homeowners start getting charged too.

fergy wrote: ↑ Those who decide not to abide by orders will be subject to a set fine and/or prosecution under both the ROA and EMCPA as applicable.

jrbb0309 wrote: ↑ Have googled the heck out of this but am unable to find a definitive answer. I'm assuming non-essential construction includes home renos, yes? What if you've already started? Are you allowed to finish?

Jerico wrote: ↑ I’m 100% sure, just as last time, there will be all kinds of rule shirkers. The whole “30% arent following the rules” will continue unabated. We followed the rules and didnt work last time and lost a tonne of work to those that did. Quite frankly it pisses me off. One of our suppliers stayed open, considering themselves “essential”. For a little karma, they got shut down by their regional health authority for 2 weeks in Sept/Oct sometime. I am sure they wont shut again this time. The cops dont have time for this crap.

All I heard today was “Things are going to get worse. Some people arent following the rules. Here are some more rules for those that follow, and those that didnt follow the previous rules arent going to follow these either and things will get worse”

In summary, I bet good money those guys will still start tomorrow. Windows can be done in a day, siding is a 2 week job. I hope someone calls the cops on them. Nothing will be done until homeowners start getting charged too.

jdmfishingonly wrote: ↑ Doesn't stop me from getting my kitchen back splash finally done as well as some countertop finishes on my custom finished shelves in my basement from the same guy....

Red_Army wrote: ↑ https://ontarioconstructionnews.com/cov ... -outlined/

Residential construction projects where,
a footing permit has been granted for single family, semi-detached and townhomes
the project is a condominium, mixed use or other residential building, or
the project involves renovations to residential properties and construction work was started before January 12, 2021.

jdmfishingonly wrote: ↑ Doesn't stop me from getting my kitchen back splash finally done as well as some countertop finishes on my custom finished shelves in my basement from the same guy that previously did our kitchen and bathroom countertops.

timofeewho wrote: ↑ I have a friend who's been talking to a contractor regarding a decently sized reno project on a house that she's closing the end of this month. Last I heard they couldn't get the permit started because the seller refused to have their name on the permit. She emailed the contractor last night about whether or not the reno is still a go and was told that they started the reno process prior to the announcement yesterday, so it's still fine. I guess they theoretically talked about it, hence started it even though they don't have a permit so they're fine‍♂️?

Either way, I don't see cops driving around town looking for houses undergoing reno, that's expecting too much from the cops lol

jrbb0309 wrote: ↑ We were supposed to have a bathroom reno started on Monday. Our contractor was willing to go ahead - was arguing that the fact that we'd paid the deposit and ordered everything constituted having started and that because we have a "possible" small leak that needs investigating we could say it was essential - but we said we were uncomfortable and not prepared to go ahead until after the lockdown/state of emergency. I understand how hard it is to keep a business afloat and keep employees paid/working but we've followed all the other orders, been pretty judge-y about those who haven't, didn't see our extended family at Christmas, etc, so why would we try and skirt the "rules" now when things are worse than they've ever been?

PLUS we have a working bathroom right now. It's not pretty and it drives me up the wall but it works. I'd hate to get halfway into a project and get shutdown OR have the glass door guy come out to measure but then not be able to get our shower glass for months. But those things are secondary to the fact that our job is non-essential construction and was not started before Jan 12th and therefore shouldn't be going ahead.