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STIR/SHAKEN tech to identify spoofed calls officially kicks in today Nov 30

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STIR/SHAKEN tech to identify spoofed calls officially kicks in today Nov 30

CTRC News Release
"As of today, telecommunications service providers will certify whether a caller’s identity can be trusted by verifying the caller ID information for Internet Protocol-based voice calls. This new technology will help reduce the frequency and impact of caller ID spoofing. As service providers continue to upgrade their IP networks and offer compatible phones to their customers, more and more Canadians will be able to see the effects of STIR/SHAKEN."

New caller ID law now in place to help fight wave of spam and spoof calls
CBC Nov 30

STIR/SHAKEN is not intended to block calls, but to flag the Caller ID as verified or unverified.

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Up to one-quarter of all calls on mobile networks in Canada are spam right now

Canada's telecommunications regulator is bringing in new laws that will force phone companies to do a better job of identifying who is calling, to help users inundated by nuisance phone calls from telemarketers.

The Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC) said in a news release Tuesday that phone companies must now implement a technology on their networks that does a better job of weeding out so-called spoof phone calls, which are calls that look like familiar Canadian phone numbers they may want to answer, but are in fact unsolicited spam and nuisance calls from dodgy companies.

Earlier this month, CRTC chair Ian Scott announced that the regulator was going to compel the phone companies to do more about cracking down on such calls, which he said make up as much as 25 per cent of all phone calls on mobile networks in Canada right now.

"Most people likely perceive spoofed calls as a nuisance," Scott said in a speech to a telecom conference earlier this month.

"The truth is, they're more than that. They're gateways for criminals to dupe hard-working people out of their money and their sensitive data. And they're relentless," he said, citing data from the U.S. Federal Communications Commission that suggests there are more than 2,100 robocalls being made to phone users in the U.S. every second of every day.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/crtc-s ... -1.6267961
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Ohh thanks @Dhanushan

Called STIR/SHAKEN eh? A bit of James Bond magic?

To be honest, I don't care who posts it. I'm so excited. I really hope it works.

These spam calls are criminal and anything that can stop them is welcome.

Let's hope it's effective!!!
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It seems that the info is created by the orginator or its service provider and your provider will verify it as trustworthy or not.

I guess no service provider have the ability to fake authentication. :twisted:
Mar 7, 2011
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Bond's "license to kill" would probably be a better tool to use against these scum. j/k!
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Has anyone actually noticed anything different yet? I know it's still early, this isn't completely rolled out yet, and this isn't actually meant to block these calls....

but I've still received a call with the first six digits of my number and other random calls on Telus and a Pixel phone.

Recently turned off call control just to test Pixel call screening
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Got what I assume is a spam call this morning, Call Screening worked excellent as usual.

Ever since I got call screening on my Pixel 2 a few years ago, I get spam calls in clusters and then it stops for a month or two, resumes, and stops.
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i got 3 three calls from the CRA saying my SSN has been suspended, in the GTA my oh my /s
Mar 29, 2021
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Yeah, I got one 'spam' call and my wife got two today. I guess it is working 'great'.
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I just saw a Global TV piece on this.

So it doesn't work for overseas calls??????

And it was implemented 2.5 years later than it should have been.
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Yes, it is very dsiappointing.

Apparently if anyone uses a landline or calls from overseas, it doesn't work. And it was implemented 2.5 years later than it should have. Then the CRTC didn't say that telcos couldn't charge for this service.

What is the point of this?
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“Some consumers might see this offered in the coming months with a $1 or $2 per month charge, maybe more,” he said.

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May 26, 2020
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So much for that. Received 3 today already.
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Don't get this mistaken, but this is far from a reality yet. All this means is that the CRTC gave the providers until the 30th to implement a strategy to meet their regulations and to support STIR/SHAKEN. Proposing a strategy and building the architecture are two very different things.

This protocol has been in the US for a couple years now since the TRACED act was passed and is still very much in development and not standard across the board because STIR/SHAKEN providers need to be authorized by the FCC.

That being said, this is a fairly simple type of strategy to prevent scam calls. Caller presents a certificate which gets referenced with a database and all the recipient will see is a GREEN or RED light indicating the legitimacy.