STIR/SHAKEN tech to identify spoofed calls officially kicks in today Nov 30

Nov 30th, 2021 1:27 pm

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pjw918 [OP]: Deal Addict; Feb 28, 2012; 1200 posts; 2171 upvotes; Alberta

Nov 30th, 2021 1:27 pm

STIR/SHAKEN tech to identify spoofed calls officially kicks in today Nov 30

CTRC News Release
"As of today, telecommunications service providers will certify whether a caller’s identity can be trusted by verifying the caller ID information for Internet Protocol-based voice calls. This new technology will help reduce the frequency and impact of caller ID spoofing. As service providers continue to upgrade their IP networks and offer compatible phones to their customers, more and more Canadians will be able to see the effects of STIR/SHAKEN."

New caller ID law now in place to help fight wave of spam and spoof calls
CBC Nov 30

STIR/SHAKEN is not intended to block calls, but to flag the Caller ID as verified or unverified.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STIR/SHAKEN
https://telnyx.com/resources/shaken-stir-explained

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Nov 30th, 2021 4:48 pm

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elgros4: Deal Addict; Sep 13, 2011; 1271 posts; 860 upvotes; Québec

Nov 30th, 2021 4:48 pm

great news

Nov 30th, 2021 7:59 pm

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Tornado15550: Newbie; Feb 15, 2016; 4 posts

Nov 30th, 2021 7:59 pm

Any info on implementation details from the carriers?

Nov 30th, 2021 9:17 pm

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pjw918 [OP]: Deal Addict; Feb 28, 2012; 1200 posts; 2171 upvotes; Alberta

Nov 30th, 2021 9:17 pm

Tornado15550 wrote: ↑ Any info on implementation details from the carriers?

From Shaw: https://support.shaw.ca/t5/service-upda ... ta-p/44274

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Dec 1st, 2021 1:26 am

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berrytree: Deal Addict; Sep 3, 2020; 2720 posts; 1956 upvotes

Dec 1st, 2021 1:26 am

Up to one-quarter of all calls on mobile networks in Canada are spam right now

Canada's telecommunications regulator is bringing in new laws that will force phone companies to do a better job of identifying who is calling, to help users inundated by nuisance phone calls from telemarketers.

The Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC) said in a news release Tuesday that phone companies must now implement a technology on their networks that does a better job of weeding out so-called spoof phone calls, which are calls that look like familiar Canadian phone numbers they may want to answer, but are in fact unsolicited spam and nuisance calls from dodgy companies.

Earlier this month, CRTC chair Ian Scott announced that the regulator was going to compel the phone companies to do more about cracking down on such calls, which he said make up as much as 25 per cent of all phone calls on mobile networks in Canada right now.

"Most people likely perceive spoofed calls as a nuisance," Scott said in a speech to a telecom conference earlier this month.

"The truth is, they're more than that. They're gateways for criminals to dupe hard-working people out of their money and their sensitive data. And they're relentless," he said, citing data from the U.S. Federal Communications Commission that suggests there are more than 2,100 robocalls being made to phone users in the U.S. every second of every day.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/crtc-s ... -1.6267961

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Dec 1st, 2021 1:44 am

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berrytree: Deal Addict; Sep 3, 2020; 2720 posts; 1956 upvotes

Dec 1st, 2021 1:44 am

Ohh thanks @Dhanushan

Called STIR/SHAKEN eh? A bit of James Bond magic?

To be honest, I don't care who posts it. I'm so excited. I really hope it works.

These spam calls are criminal and anything that can stop them is welcome.

Let's hope it's effective!!!

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Dec 1st, 2021 7:56 am

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dec12: Deal Addict; May 6, 2010; 3097 posts; 411 upvotes; Markham

Dec 1st, 2021 7:56 am

It seems that the info is created by the orginator or its service provider and your provider will verify it as trustworthy or not.

I guess no service provider have the ability to fake authentication.

Dec 1st, 2021 12:05 pm

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ob2011: Member; Mar 7, 2011; 203 posts; 165 upvotes; Moronto

Dec 1st, 2021 12:05 pm

Bond's "license to kill" would probably be a better tool to use against these scum. j/k!

Dec 1st, 2021 1:05 pm

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Dave98: Deal Fanatic; Sep 10, 2005; 5078 posts; 2573 upvotes; GTA

Dec 1st, 2021 1:05 pm

Has anyone actually noticed anything different yet? I know it's still early, this isn't completely rolled out yet, and this isn't actually meant to block these calls....

but I've still received a call with the first six digits of my number and other random calls on Telus and a Pixel phone.

Recently turned off call control just to test Pixel call screening

Dec 1st, 2021 1:21 pm

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coriolis: Deal Expert; May 22, 2005; 20535 posts; 5990 upvotes; GTA

Dec 1st, 2021 1:21 pm

Got what I assume is a spam call this morning, Call Screening worked excellent as usual.

Ever since I got call screening on my Pixel 2 a few years ago, I get spam calls in clusters and then it stops for a month or two, resumes, and stops.

Dec 1st, 2021 5:51 pm

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jensen1: Sr. Member; Jun 21, 2008; 559 posts; 148 upvotes; mississauga

Dec 1st, 2021 5:51 pm

i got 3 three calls from the CRA saying my SSN has been suspended, in the GTA my oh my /s

Dec 1st, 2021 7:36 pm

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Guest32274222: Newbie; Mar 29, 2021; 45 posts; 35 upvotes

Dec 1st, 2021 7:36 pm

Yeah, I got one 'spam' call and my wife got two today. I guess it is working 'great'.

Dec 1st, 2021 7:37 pm

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berrytree: Deal Addict; Sep 3, 2020; 2720 posts; 1956 upvotes

Dec 1st, 2021 7:37 pm

I just saw a Global TV piece on this.

So it doesn't work for overseas calls??????

And it was implemented 2.5 years later than it should have been.

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Dec 1st, 2021 7:39 pm

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berrytree: Deal Addict; Sep 3, 2020; 2720 posts; 1956 upvotes

Dec 1st, 2021 7:39 pm

Yes, it is very dsiappointing.

Apparently if anyone uses a landline or calls from overseas, it doesn't work. And it was implemented 2.5 years later than it should have. Then the CRTC didn't say that telcos couldn't charge for this service.

What is the point of this?

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Dec 1st, 2021 9:22 pm

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pjw918 [OP]: Deal Addict; Feb 28, 2012; 1200 posts; 2171 upvotes; Alberta

Dec 1st, 2021 9:22 pm

berrytree wrote: ↑ I just saw a Global TV piece on this.

Reality check: Will CRTC’s new tech to fight spam calls actually work?

Dec 2nd, 2021 2:00 am

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wing0: Deal Addict; Mar 20, 2004; 4205 posts; 1178 upvotes; Mississauga

Dec 2nd, 2021 2:00 am

“Some consumers might see this offered in the coming months with a $1 or $2 per month charge, maybe more,” he said.

Awesome...

Dec 2nd, 2021 9:50 am

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EnyCe: Deal Addict; Sep 23, 2009; 3603 posts; 1145 upvotes; Oshawa, ON

Dec 2nd, 2021 9:50 am

I'm pretty happy with Koodo's call control. Upon activation a few years ago, never once received a spam call.

https://www.koodomobile.com/en/help/call-control

My PC build

Dec 2nd, 2021 9:51 am

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Dhanushan: Deal Guru; Jun 20, 2020; 12143 posts; 14634 upvotes; Toronto

Dec 2nd, 2021 9:51 am

New technology will help fight spam calls, CRTC says

Destiny is all

Dec 2nd, 2021 12:45 pm

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PaulJ156: Member; May 26, 2020; 215 posts; 108 upvotes

Dec 2nd, 2021 12:45 pm

So much for that. Received 3 today already.

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Dec 3rd, 2021 11:20 am

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Unpopularopinion: Newbie; Nov 1, 2018; 58 posts; 30 upvotes

Dec 3rd, 2021 11:20 am

Don't get this mistaken, but this is far from a reality yet. All this means is that the CRTC gave the providers until the 30th to implement a strategy to meet their regulations and to support STIR/SHAKEN. Proposing a strategy and building the architecture are two very different things.

This protocol has been in the US for a couple years now since the TRACED act was passed and is still very much in development and not standard across the board because STIR/SHAKEN providers need to be authorized by the FCC.

That being said, this is a fairly simple type of strategy to prevent scam calls. Caller presents a certificate which gets referenced with a database and all the recipient will see is a GREEN or RED light indicating the legitimacy.

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