Streaming platforms to incur penalties if not abiding by Broadcasting Act rules, Ottawa proposes

Why do they always want the streaming companies to contribute to Canadian content? I only see price increases if it passes. Damn government and CRTC.

Mcik316 wrote: ↑ Why do they always want the streaming companies to contribute to Canadian content? I only see price increases if it passes. Damn government and CRTC.

Newsflash - Canada didn't become a great country because of selfish a-holes who complained non stop about contributing to things they did not personally see value in. It is both sad and disturbing how so many people default to such a brainwashed selfish mindset.

Artificial means to fund domestic content is very much required. Few other countries in the world have a neighbour that dominates in content produced in the same language spoken.

Suck it up and man up.
Just because you do not directly gain anything does not mean there is no value.

I think Netflix and Prime already make more Cancon that I watch than the standard Canadian networks.

I know there's a lot of shows that film in Vancouver and Toronto that are filmed for US Content Companies. However, I was also under the impression that they usually organize them in a way that they qualify as CanCon and qualify for tax credits?

I always thought the CanCon requirement wasn't great. CTV/Global/City... other than news broadcasts, what CanCon do they make worth watching?

zod wrote: ↑ I think Netflix and Prime already make more Cancon that I watch than the standard Canadian networks.

I know there's a lot of shows that film in Vancouver and Toronto that are filmed for US Content Companies. However, I was also under the impression that they usually organize them in a way that they qualify as CanCon and qualify for tax credits?

I always thought the CanCon requirement wasn't great. CTV/Global/City... other than news broadcasts, what CanCon do they make worth watching?

This explains Canadian Program Certification:

https://crtc.gc.ca/eng/cancon/c_cdn.htm

What is Canadian certification?

Canadian Program Certification helps independent Canadian producers and broadcasters obtain recognition for productions that use mainly Canadian crews and talent. This certification allows broadcasters to meet their Canadian content regulatory obligations, including their on-screen quotas.

The CRTC certifies a Canadian television program or series that meets the following criteria:

the producer must be Canadian and is responsible for monitoring and making decisions pertaining to the program;
the production earns a minimum of 6 out of 10 points based on the key creative functions that are performed by Canadians;
at least one of either the director or screenwriter positions and at least one of the two lead performers must be Canadian;
a minimum of 75% of program expenses and 75% of post-production expenses are paid for services provided by Canadians or Canadian companies.
What is the points system?
Very often, a book has only one author. Audio-visual productions, on the other hand, require a team of creative personnel to bring them to our screens to inform, enlighten or entertain us. Points are awarded for productions based on the key creative functions being performed by Canadians.

Key creative positions for live action productions*:

Director (2 pts.)
Screenwriter (2 pts.)
First and Second Lead Performers (performer or voice) (1 pt. each)
Production Designer (1 pt.)
Director of Photography (1 pt.)
Music Composer (1 pt.)
Picture Editor (1 pt.)

The main goal is to allow Canadians to have gain employment within the industry.
It's by no means a perfect system - but we need an artificial construct to keep things going.
There are many who push for true CanCon - the need to have more money flowing for productions that are about Canadians, and not just productions where we emulate America.
You don't see much Pure CanCon because Canadians have been conditioned to believe that we will always fail if we try to compete.
I think a pretty good argument can be made that technology has evolved to a point where it is much more feasible to produce decent content with a reasonable budget.

I personally watch very few true CanCon productions, but I sure hope that maybe this would change.

For me, my feeling is that in this day and age, we really need to be demanding more from the massive companies that have formed over the last 2-3 decades.
Frankly, far too many of them have manipulated the system (which was designed in a less vertically integrated era) to avoid paying taxes.
Amazon is a great example of the dangers and harm that come with vertical integration - no doubt, their media division maximizes their Hollywood accounting so as to negate paying taxes for other divisions.

Our quality of life in Canada is not the result of magic - it came because we previously had an era where there were way less loopholes for tax avoidance.
We turned a blind eye during early Internet days, because we did not want to hinder new development.
Unfortunately, in the process, we created some massive monsters.

shikotee wrote: ↑ Newsflash - Canada didn't become a great country because of selfish a-holes who complained non stop about contributing to things they did not personally see value in. It is both sad and disturbing how so many people default to such a brainwashed selfish mindset.

Artificial means to fund domestic content is very much required. Few other countries in the world have a neighbour that dominates in content produced in the same language spoken.

Suck it up and man up.
Just because you do not directly gain anything does not mean there is no value.

I mean, as a Canadian I already contribute to a lot of things I don’t benefit / see values in and it’s fine. Maybe it’s because the CanCon I watch is all in french that I don’t see the needs to have our content paid by others. But to reduce loopholes for not paying taxes is great. But you seem to take that really personally.

I wonder if this will apply to the Canadian online streaming platforms as well. Pornhub should have more Canadian content if they're going to be compliant with this law.

Piro21 wrote: ↑ I wonder if this will apply to the Canadian online streaming platforms as well. Pornhub should have more Canadian content if they're going to be compliant with this law.

Well played good sir....... Well played!!!!

Ridiculous. People subscribe to netflix and other streaming services largely BECAUSE of the stupid CRTC rules which make Canadian channels unwatchable. Now they want to poison the only outlet we have with crappy Canadian productions?

dealguy2 wrote: ↑ Ridiculous. People subscribe to netflix and other streaming services largely BECAUSE of the stupid CRTC rules which make Canadian channels unwatchable. Now they want to poison the only outlet we have with crappy Canadian productions?

It is much more complex.
For example, when I watched the latest episode of The Mandolorian, I watched the full credits, and was surprised that 3 Canadian provinces (BC, Ontario, Quebec) were involved with tax credits, which likely means Canadians were hired for post-production work (in order to qualify for the credits).
CanCon is NOT exclusively about making Canadian shows.

I think as far as the crtc is concerned cancon doesn't mean post production or filmed in Canada.

This is one time I'm actually happy with the CRTC. I'm not gung-ho for Canadian content, but there have been stuff I've really enjoyed that may not have gotten made if not for Cancon:
- Intelligence
- Robson Arms
- Bomb Girls
- X Company

CRTC.
Communists Regulating Television in Canada