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Student paying for essays/assignments?

The other day I was having a conversation with one of my friends about keeping up with the course loads, and as I was venting about balancing studying for midterms and completing projects and essays, he said that him and his friends pay to have theirs completed. Now, I attend UofT, and have never really come across many students who do this, or at least admit to doing it. He says it's not too uncommon at the University of Guelph where he goes. He directed me to services like www.theessayplace.com and www.apluswriters.ca (never heard of either :s). They market their service as "research assistance", which is rather deceptive, because students submit the work they pay for as their own. They seem legitimate, theessayplace even has a downtown office which I found kind of strange (you would think they would be a little discrete?)

I always knew services like this existed. Does anyone know what universities do to try and track students who use these websites? Is there anything they can do? These sites make a point about keeping students anonymous. What they really do is give students with a few extra $$ an unfair advantage, and damage the credibility of a university or college degree.

Has anyone used these services? What was your experience like? Do you know of anyone who's been caught?
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Just write your own essays, you're only cheating yourself by paying tens of thousands of dollars to learn and just putting the school on an external agent. I know there are foreign students who use these services, but it's never a good idea.

If you go to U of T you should know how serious plagiarism is there, and you can be withdrawn from the program but more likely you will get a 0 in the course if caught. I have seen 1 person in my undergrad caught for using these services on a 10% paper (Hong Kong student). He was sent to the Dean's office. I know he used these services because a mutual friend of ours told me that was the reason.

The reason you can get caught is because these services will most likely use pre-written work to extract essays from. This gets seen in turnitin. The work at U of T doesn't get changed up too often if you notice the past exams, and similarly with the projects/essays so chances are they will use past work to reduce their own workload.
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It's a bad idea for a lot of reasons, not including the whole academic misconduct thing. The only person who it might be a good idea is for the rich FOB who's parents sent them here to get a western degree and intend to give them a position at their company/whatever back home as soon as they graduate. Employers are looking for people who know how to structure an argument or a report and know how to write in a simple yet convincing manner and if you find yourself in a career that requires this you won't necessarily be able to outsource it. How hard is to a write a 10 page research paper anyway? If you can't buckle down and do that then you don't even deserve to be in post-secondary education.
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You might get nailed by turnitin or if your professor/TA noticed your writing changed drastically.

My advice: write a draft, revise it, and get an academic writing advisor to go over it with you. Chances are, this won't be your only essay. Learn to do it well and you'll never need these sort of services.
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If you're gonna cheat like that, why not just buy a fake degree from a degree mill?
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Terrible idea. It was already mentioned that you're cheating yourself by paying for university and paying for someone to write your university assignments.

Why not write a draft essay then take it to one of the university-provided writing services for review? They'll help you without the possibility of be charged and/or found guilty of plagiarism.
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I've wanted to ask this question for a long time...Would it still be considered academic honesty, if you receive assistance in writing an essay IF the assistance involves only giving you ideas/point-form notes to start you off, but NOT write the assignment for you.

I remember occasions where I was stuck at the first sentence of a tax assignment, and one of my class mates gave me a direction, pin-pointing me to the general chapter/section I should focus on, and after thoroughly studying the chapter, I figured out how to tackle the assignment.
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dragon_drift wrote: You might get nailed by turnitin or if your professor/TA noticed your writing changed drastically.
Exactly.
Plus essay writing helps when in the work world and you are required to write intelligent reports.
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nameh wrote: The other day I was having a conversation with one of my friends about keeping up with the course loads, and as I was venting about balancing studying for midterms and completing projects and essays, he said that him and his friends pay to have theirs completed. Now, I attend UofT, and have never really come across many students who do this, or at least admit to doing it. He says it's not too uncommon at the University of Guelph where he goes. He directed me to services like www.theessayplace.com and www.apluswriters.ca (never heard of either :s). They market their service as "research assistance", which is rather deceptive, because students submit the work they pay for as their own. They seem legitimate, theessayplace even has a downtown office which I found kind of strange (you would think they would be a little discrete?)

I always knew services like this existed. Does anyone know what universities do to try and track students who use these websites? Is there anything they can do? These sites make a point about keeping students anonymous. What they really do is give students with a few extra $$ an unfair advantage, and damage the credibility of a university or college degree.

Has anyone used these services? What was your experience like? Do you know of anyone who's been caught?
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Yes sure it's "your friend" who told you about all this stuff wink wink, don't even think about it, you will get caught. The teacher will be able to tell when a writing is not yours. That website could send everyone the same paper and when you get caught you can't really do anything about it, they laugh all the way to the bank and you're black listed from all universities for plagerism. Ain't nobody got time for that, write your own work.
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blitzforce wrote: I've wanted to ask this question for a long time...Would it still be considered academic honesty, if you receive assistance in writing an essay IF the assistance involves only giving you ideas/point-form notes to start you off, but NOT write the assignment for you.

I remember occasions where I was stuck at the first sentence of a tax assignment, and one of my class mates gave me a direction, pin-pointing me to the general chapter/section I should focus on, and after thoroughly studying the chapter, I figured out how to tackle the assignment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academic_dishonesty

Your university should have clear guidelines on what constitutes academic dishonesty. If not, they usually have a section separate from the teaching faculty that can help guide you in the right direction before you make a mistake.

I wouldn't consider it academic dishonesty for someone to point you in the right direction. I had TAs tell the group "you should really focus on chapter 7" or "theory x is not as important as theory y, so focus your time accordingly."
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Bad idea, don't take the risk. Allow yourself extra time to do assignments, ask for help. Don't screw your academic record because you were too lazy to do an essay and wanted to pay someone for it.
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jmatheson64 wrote: I remember reading this article which tuned me into this emerging problem: http://chronicle.com/article/The-Shadow-Scholar/125329/

I've also heard of people using Adderall to prepare them for exams. Crazy.
Excellent article. I agree with the portrayal of the education system by this writer. I also acknowledge the widespread use of services such as this by at LEAST 20% of every single university and college in Canada and the US.
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I think if you are investing in getting an education, I suggest you try writing essays instead of having others write it for you. Although, your workload might be heavy, in the long term it is better for you to try your best. There are mentor and other services to assist in editing and so forth.

It is a harsh punishment to be caught cheating in any form. Just saying, proceed at your own risk :|

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When hiring co-op students last year, I saw "failure due to academic dishonesty" in a student transcript for the first time (those were the actual words, if memory serves). That application went into the recycle bin immediately. For an employer, it's not worth the risk of hiring a student with that on his or her record. Something to think about.
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ashihtaka wrote: Excellent article. I agree with the portrayal of the education system by this writer. I also acknowledge the widespread use of services such as this by at LEAST 20% of every single university and college in Canada and the US.
Reading some of the comments is interesting, as professors admit that it is almost impossible to prove it. I know that Dalhousie no longer uses turnitin (unsure if they use another service), and so in absence of that or a prof noticing similarities to another essay (they correct 100's), it seems difficult to prove.

It really is a shame that it is literally all about evaluation or education in university. Can I propose a better system? Not right now. But it is obvious that cheating is very easy for those willing to take the risk and the risk is becoming more justified with the economy and extra-competitive environment for Gen Y. I'll admit I've had serious thoughts of cheating and did some research into it given the pressure for high marks to translate into a viable career.
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Here's another perspective on thsi subject: I do assignments for profits. I was solo, and only did it for friends and friends of friends. I did mostly programming, Excel, math, technical stuffs, etc. My price ranged from $50 for an assignment worth 5% to $300 for an end of term, 35% worth paper. I didn't do it for the money as I had well-paying jobs (for a student) throughout school, but for the pure enjoyment of it. I couldn't care less about what my "clients" want to do with their careers. If you come to me with these request, you already told me that you don't give a ***** about your education. You already made that choice before seeing me. I offered free tutoring but only one of them ever took it. And I tutored him for months, at at his apartment, mostly for free with the occasional Tim Hortons or Starbucks. That just demonstrates that a lot of people shouldn't be in university, since they may be no good coming out anyway.

My favourite was when a former prof called me about a final assignment, which I had been the only person to ever get 100% on it. He asked "The solution got your fingerprints all over it. Were you involved in this?" My answer: "You are the teacher. You can tell."

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