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Students as employees just not cutting it these days

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May 1, 2014
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Brampton, ON

Students as employees just not cutting it these days

I have had such a bad experience hiring students.
They apply
They get interview time
They don't show up
Quit before start date after accepting job.

I suppose there are so many job opportunities out there to choose from.

Ok out of my system now :)
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You're obviously not very good at selecting the right students then.
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Could be, I was open to giving them an opportunity to get experience.
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MylaBrugmans wrote: Could be, I was open to giving them an opportunity to get experience.
i actually think it's probably the nature of the job you're offering in relation to the wage you're willing to pay

the fast food industry hires students all the time at minimum wage working them under stress and they never seem to have a problem finding people, if people pick that over your job offering then maybe it's not them it's you
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If so many people are ditching you, it's probably you, not them.
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So what exactly are you hiring for, that might help, I need a job and 10 others I know atleast need jobs, many with degrees.
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A lot of students are kids sitting at home eating mommy and daddy's food and have their life (education, car, etc.) paid for. Not to mention funded roof over their head too. For them whatever chump change they make at their part-time income is 100% disposable.

With that mentality they obviously don't care as much about the job as they don't even need it.
Even if these kids don't find a job after graduation their parents will keep them fed.

I went to university for countless people like that for years. Makes you sick to your stomach because they really don't have working hearts.

On the flip side you have broke students taking out loans and having trouble finding work, but one common characteristic they tend to share is they are afraid of hard work- sometimes away from their family and friends- and that is why they're still broke. Or they have work offered to them and they still decide to be picky, even if the money is good (who said you had to do that work forever anyways? Could always just find another better job later... lol)

And then you have students who fit neither of those categories... and those are the ones who leave/work hard to make a better future for themselves.

I was 20 when I bought my car and new truck myself and didn't need to ask my parents for them. Now I am funding my training to hopefully double my income and I didn't need to ask my parents for the thousands of $$$ for the courses either. Though I had to make sacrifices. I remember having to work multiple series of menial jobs at once to buy my first car, it sucked.
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I suppose I have higher expectations. I suffered a massive stroke at the age of 23. This killed me. When I woke, I found I was completely paralyzed on my left side. I had to learn everything again. Learn how to sit, roll over in bed and eventually walk.

Today I am that person who is in the gym each day. I work my butt off each day in everything I do.

My journey has been more difficult than most. So I get a little frustrated.

This is my published story http://westgtastroke.ca/resources/stories/

The job is based out of north west Brampton. Message me privately if you want to know more with your email and cell number. I'm looking for people with a no quit attitude and great personality who love the outdoors.

Enjoy your weekend, Off to work then gym :)
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MylaB865 wrote: I suppose I have higher expectations. I suffered a massive stroke at the age of 23. This killed me. When I woke, I found I was completely paralyzed on my left side. I had to learn everything again. Learn how to sit, roll over in bed and eventually walk.

Today I am that person who is in the gym each day. I work my butt off each day in everything I do.

My journey has been more difficult than most. So I get a little frustrated.

This is my published story http://westgtastroke.ca/resources/stories/

The job is based out of north west Brampton. Message me privately if you want to know more with your email and cell number. I'm looking for people with a no quit attitude and great personality who love the outdoors.

Enjoy your weekend, Off to work then gym :)
Why does this sound like a door to door sales job?
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lmao, abuse of personality disability sympathy to lure people into ***** job? either manual labor under correct rates or door to door commission based work thats all a bunch of bs monopolizing on poor broke students. exactly why you decided to post in a student forum regarding jobs.

you should be *****ing ashamed.
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FirstGear wrote: A lot of students are kids sitting at home eating mommy and daddy's food and have their life (education, car, etc.) paid for. Not to mention funded roof over their head too. For them whatever chump change they make at their part-time income is 100% disposable.

I went to university for countless people like that for years. Makes you sick to your stomach because they really don't have working hearts.

On the flip side you have broke students taking out loans and having trouble finding work, but one common characteristic they tend to share is they are afraid of hard work- sometimes away from their family and friends- and that is why they're still broke. Or they have work offered to them and they still decide to be picky, even if the money is good (who said you had to do that work forever anyways? Could always just find another better job later... lol)

Lazy millennial's? :)
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FirstGear wrote: A lot of students are kids sitting at home eating mommy and daddy's food and have their life (education, car, etc.) paid for. Not to mention funded roof over their head too. For them whatever chump change they make at their part-time income is 100% disposable.

With that mentality they obviously don't care as much about the job as they don't even need it.
Even if these kids don't find a job after graduation their parents will keep them fed.

I went to university for countless people like that for years. Makes you sick to your stomach because they really don't have working hearts.

On the flip side you have broke students taking out loans and having trouble finding work, but one common characteristic they tend to share is they are afraid of hard work- sometimes away from their family and friends- and that is why they're still broke. Or they have work offered to them and they still decide to be picky, even if the money is good (who said you had to do that work forever anyways? Could always just find another better job later... lol)

And then you have students who fit neither of those categories... and those are the ones who leave/work hard to make a better future for themselves.

I was 20 when I bought my car and new truck myself and didn't need to ask my parents for them. Now I am funding my training to hopefully double my income and I didn't need to ask my parents for the thousands of $$$ for the courses either. Though I had to make sacrifices. I remember having to work multiple series of menial jobs at once to buy my first car, it sucked.
so just how many times do you intend to recite your "story" on rfd on how everyone should be you?

you're in a good situation now, but it's more or less a dead end career, let's face it you're not going to work 30-40 years out on the field, and the second you leave, you'll be working your way up like a regular university graduate, probably having to face those you despise as your supervisor

anyways, i'm not saying what you did was wrong, i believe somewhere in between is probably more realistic, expecting a teenager to be totally financially independent is completely ridiculous, and doesn't let those who are actually academically gifted to focus on their studies to do what they need to do (let's face it, i don't think your university education had a high barrier to entry), having a part time job to pay for their own entertainment/food expenses is absolutely reasonable, to me at least

but yes we can all hate the lazy teens and young adults who feed off their parents
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MylaB865 wrote: This is my published story http://westgtastroke.ca/resources/stories/

The job is based out of north west Brampton. Message me privately if you want to know more with your email and cell number. I'm looking for people with a no quit attitude and great personality who love the outdoors.
If you go to that website, MylaB865 is MylaBrugmans

Judging from her little self-advertising, it sounds like she's running some door-to-door sales or MLM ***** and this thread's just a scam to get fresh recruits.

Hey Myla, maybe the reason students bail on you even before the start date is because your "job offer" sounds like or straight up is a god damned scam. Offer a REAL job and you'll find that students will take it as seriously as the next person.
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JuliTheNub wrote: If you go to that website, MylaB865 is MylaBrugmans

Judging from her little self-advertising, it sounds like she's running some door-to-door sales or MLM ***** and this thread's just a scam to get fresh recruits.

Hey Myla, maybe the reason students bail on you even before the start date is because your "job offer" sounds like or straight up is a god damned scam. Offer a REAL job and you'll find that students will take it as seriously as the next person.
Yes, and her second account got banned as per the RFD rules.

Myla, sorry for your hard life. But what does your story have to do with your company and your job posting?
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Let's face it, no one likes door to door sales.
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That's up to me.

There are tons of other jobs in the field beyond labour-related that develop into careers. You only work your way up as a regular university graduate if you choose to. Some start out working on an oilsands site and then move into an administrative role after a while (some of which actually require university education). Happened to someone on a Nexen site I worked at.
medalgo wrote: so just how many times do you intend to recite your "story" on rfd on how everyone should be you?

you're in a good situation now, but it's more or less a dead end career, let's face it you're not going to work 30-40 years out on the field, and the second you leave, you'll be working your way up like a regular university graduate, probably having to face those you despise as your supervisor

anyways, i'm not saying what you did was wrong, i believe somewhere in between is probably more realistic, expecting a teenager to be totally financially independent is completely ridiculous, and doesn't let those who are actually academically gifted to focus on their studies to do what they need to do (let's face it, i don't think your university education had a high barrier to entry), having a part time job to pay for their own entertainment/food expenses is absolutely reasonable, to me at least

but yes we can all hate the lazy teens and young adults who feed off their parents
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JuliTheNub wrote: If you go to that website, MylaB865 is MylaBrugmans

Judging from her little self-advertising, it sounds like she's running some door-to-door sales or MLM ***** and this thread's just a scam to get fresh recruits.

Hey Myla, maybe the reason students bail on you even before the start date is because your "job offer" sounds like or straight up is a god damned scam. Offer a REAL job and you'll find that students will take it as seriously as the next person.
joepoonie wrote: Yes, and her second account got banned as per the RFD rules.

Myla, sorry for your hard life. But what does your story have to do with your company and your job posting?
Not to mention the self-promo, all relating to "Direct Fine Foods."
1. just-watched-food-inc-just-wondering-wh ... st18827226
2. looking-grass-fed-maybe-organic-meat-ne ... st18826687
3. looking-grass-fed-maybe-organic-meat-ne ... st18826445
4. looking-grass-fed-maybe-organic-meat-ne ... st18826680
5. delicious-free-all-natural-steak-sample ... st18825890
6. delicious-free-all-natural-steak-sample ... st18825711

Toss in our poster to Google and you find shes a "proud representative at Direct Fine Foods."
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FirstGear wrote: That's up to me.

There are tons of other jobs in the field beyond labour-related that develop into careers. You only work your way up as a regular university graduate if you choose to. Some start out working on an oilsands site and then move into an administrative role after a while (some of which actually require university education). Happened to someone on a Nexen site I worked at.
When you say some I think it actually means an exceptionally small minority, you've made some wise decisions but now you're betting on that?

Good luck with it
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I don't think it's anything to do with "lazy generation" because this same lazy generation of students still has jobs at McD's and McD's is still able to get them to show up to their interviews so if students don't show up to yours, either you're not picking the right ones or whatever you're offering isn't enticing to them (work conditions, pay etc.).

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