someone with 15 shares just couldn't handle that SU not going to raise divi this time
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Earnings are in!
According to my sources, estimate was 32c, that's a beat of 22c. Hopefully we are up tomorrow.May 3 (Reuters) - Canadian oil and gas producer Suncor Energy Inc on Monday reported a quarterly profit from a loss in the prior quarter, as crude prices recovered from lows hit last year due to the pandemic and cost cuts.
The company posted net earnings of C$821 million ($668.84 million), or 54 Canadian cents per share, in the first quarter ended March 31, compared with a loss of C$168 million, or 11 Canadian cent per share, a quarter earlier. ($1 = 1.2275 Canadian dollars) (Reporting by Sahil Shaw and Nivedita Balu in Bengaluru)
- MrMom
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Expected EPS provided by @thetipster was likely in USD whereas the reporting was in CAD.
Increased FFO is a positive, net debt reduction is a positive, buying back common shares? Mmm ... the equity mkt could take this different ways. By not increasing the dividend, the credit mkt will like this ER more than the equity mkt.
Here's the full earnings PR. Not as clear if this Q was a success with the adjustments that SU made.
https://www.suncor.com/en-ca/newsroom/n ... es/2221854
Update (9:10am): Sell Side early analysis
* Adjusted FFO $1.39 "inline" with consensus at $1.37 ($1.22-1.66 range)
* Upcoming scheduled maintenance is expected to extend the downtime into Q3 (30 MBbl/d)
Increased FFO is a positive, net debt reduction is a positive, buying back common shares? Mmm ... the equity mkt could take this different ways. By not increasing the dividend, the credit mkt will like this ER more than the equity mkt.
Here's the full earnings PR. Not as clear if this Q was a success with the adjustments that SU made.
https://www.suncor.com/en-ca/newsroom/n ... es/2221854
Update (9:10am): Sell Side early analysis
* Adjusted FFO $1.39 "inline" with consensus at $1.37 ($1.22-1.66 range)
* Upcoming scheduled maintenance is expected to extend the downtime into Q3 (30 MBbl/d)
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Numbers are significant beats from consensus: EPS 0.29c USD = 0.36c CAD vs Actual of 0.49c CAD / .54c adjusted CAD.
FFO beat again at $1.54
It won't be the "disappointment" on numbers that will drive the SP, but rather whether Institutional money is going to:
1) Take a sustained $50+WCS seriously
2) Overlook the despise of the Oil Sands and look towards a company making significant financial gains off the mats of LY
Company can't change the SP, only institutional money can do that.
FFO beat again at $1.54
It won't be the "disappointment" on numbers that will drive the SP, but rather whether Institutional money is going to:
1) Take a sustained $50+WCS seriously
2) Overlook the despise of the Oil Sands and look towards a company making significant financial gains off the mats of LY
Company can't change the SP, only institutional money can do that.
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DealRNothing wrote: ↑ Numbers are significant beats from consensus: EPS 0.29c USD = 0.36c CAD vs Actual of 0.49c CAD / .54c adjusted CAD.
FFO beat again at $1.54
It won't be the "disappointment" on numbers that will drive the SP, but rather whether Institutional money is going to:
1) Take a sustained $50+WCS seriously
2) Overlook the despise of the Oil Sands and look towards a company making significant financial gains off the mats of LY
Company can't change the SP, only institutional money can do that.
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Strong jump to begin the day for SU, but sell offs brought it to some sharp falls and only coming back up to some modest gains now.
Interesting to see TOU outpace SU in the past week or so. Perhaps the higher volumes for SU in total results in more selling pressure bringing it one step forward-half a step back, while TOU has been fluidly rising for most of this duration
Interesting to see TOU outpace SU in the past week or so. Perhaps the higher volumes for SU in total results in more selling pressure bringing it one step forward-half a step back, while TOU has been fluidly rising for most of this duration
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TOU and SU are very different business models. Not sure why you would compare the 2. TOU is NG focused while SU is an integrated Oil producer. If you look at the performance of NG plays generally (CNQ included) the SP recovery (s) have been much better.Aljcc1 wrote: ↑ Strong jump to begin the day for SU, but sell offs brought it to some sharp falls and only coming back up to some modest gains now.
Interesting to see TOU outpace SU in the past week or so. Perhaps the higher volumes for SU in total results in more selling pressure bringing it one step forward-half a step back, while TOU has been fluidly rising for most of this duration
Personally, for oil plays my largest holdings are in mid-cap conventional plays with a underweight in SU. Today once again exhibits institutional money avoidance of SU due to political headwinds it simply cannot overcome. CDN Federal Gov't and US investors destroying the oil sands profile. This is not a new theme (regardless of financial performance) and why I went overweight conventional CDN plays in Fall of 2020.
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I added Suncor in USD today. They paid down $1 billion dolllar in debt in a single quarter and also managed to buyback $300 million of shares with an NCIB.
The name is underperforming the energy index. I think it will wake up soon.
People forget that Transmountain and Line 3 expansion are game changers for Canadian energy that offer security to the oilsands producers for decades to come.
The time to buy is now. Possible double within 12-18 months plus likely dividend hike.
The name is underperforming the energy index. I think it will wake up soon.
People forget that Transmountain and Line 3 expansion are game changers for Canadian energy that offer security to the oilsands producers for decades to come.
The time to buy is now. Possible double within 12-18 months plus likely dividend hike.
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Good points. I agree with this. Only holding a small position in SU currently but the upside is there IMO.chriskanaan wrote: ↑ The name is underperforming the energy index. I think it will wake up soon.
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IMO is the best on industry metrics (and leanest). I don't have a strong opinion about whether it is the best stock, though lately it has been.
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SU poppin' today, so far.
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You guys think that Suncor NOT raising the dividend may limit the upward momentum of the stock over the next quarter?
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Yes and it has, right now Suncor moves on earnings, when the sector moves and when oil moves significantly.thetipster wrote: ↑ You guys think that Suncor NOT raising the dividend may limit the upward momentum of the stock over the next quarter?
Anyone that can hold this for a year though should do very well. The dividend cut was quite deep as well given that others didn’t cut, they plan to limit capital spending a lot this year though.
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Psychologically ready to fill in the gap?
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$29cad+ yay
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I think buying at $24-25 was a long-term hold. Or at least until oil production remains right and inflation high.
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Lots of catching up to get back to CNQ’s paceMrMom wrote: ↑ Psychologically ready to fill in the gap?
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