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Tall Ceiling Height (11ft+)

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Tall Ceiling Height (11ft+)

Not that I am building a custom house..but just curious why aren't tall ceiling more common?

I have 9ft ceiling in my house everywhere, except for the great room + foyer/hallway that step down, with 11ft ceiling.

To me the difference between a 9ft ceiling and 11ft ceiling is huge. The extra ceiling just makes the space feel much "nicer"

Why aren't taller ceiling done more often? Is the cost to go from 9ft to 11ft or 12ft ceiling huge?
I mean...on a $1.5m house, I probably wouldn't mind paying $30K more (2%) to go from 9ft to 11ft ceiling.

I am not in the trade, but to me, going higher ceiling simply means longer stud and 10-20% more drywall/paint/bricks.
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blackn54 wrote: Not that I am building a custom house..but just curious why aren't tall ceiling more common?

I have 9ft ceiling in my house everywhere, except for the great room + foyer/hallway that step down, with 11ft ceiling.

To me the difference between a 9ft ceiling and 11ft ceiling is huge. The extra ceiling just makes the space feel much "nicer"

Why aren't taller ceiling done more often? Is the cost to go from 9ft to 11ft or 12ft ceiling huge?
I mean...on a $1.5m house, I probably wouldn't mind paying $30K more (2%) to go from 9ft to 11ft ceiling.

I am not in the trade, but to me, going higher ceiling simply means longer stud and 10-20% more drywall/paint/bricks.
Most homes are built as cheap as possible by sub par builders. Most people can't even afford homes in the GTA, let alone an extra $30k. Also, I bet it's more than just raw materials. For sure builders are going to charge a big premium for any upgrades.
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engineered wrote: Most homes are built as cheap as possible by sub par builders. Most people can't even afford homes in the GTA, let alone an extra $30k. Also, I bet it's more than just raw materials. For sure builders are going to charge a big premium for any upgrades.
I agree, but things is I rarely see 11ft+ ceiling height even in expensive custom home.

Most only have 10ft ceiling still
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Most raw materials sold at home depot are 8ft in length (2x4, drywall etc.) So I would imagine going over 8ft will be expensive since they are not mass produced items.

But I agree, I would love higher ceiling - I would pay way more than $30k if I could get 11 or 12ft ceiling for my house.
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Cost is the main reason. Going from 9' to 11' would use probably about 25% more materials for all vertical parts (walls, drywall, insulation, siding, interior and exterior paint, etc.). Labor would be more (though not 25% more), particularly for things like drywall (2 horizontal joints per wall instead of 1), siding (basically adding 20% to their workload), and electrical and plumbing (more ladder work). Not to mention a more expensive HVAC system to account for the more than 20% increase in cubic volume that needs to be heated/cooled.

All that said, I do agree with liking high ceilings (though 10' is fine for me in most rooms) and would trade floor space to cover the cost. If I could have a 2000 square ft house with 10' ceilings or a 2500 square ft one with 8' ceilings I'd pick the former every time.
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Heating cost will be higher, much higher. Warm air rises and you have that much more to heat. Really high ceilings are great for places where it's hot year-round. Unfortunately it's not - even in the mildest climates (where I am) - in Canada.
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tonershop wrote: Most raw materials sold at home depot are 8ft in length (2x4, drywall etc.) So I would imagine going over 8ft will be expensive since they are not mass produced items.

But I agree, I would love higher ceiling - I would pay way more than $30k if I could get 11 or 12ft ceiling for my house.
Builders buy their wood direct, not through home depot. They would pay even less for longer lengths.

I bet the cost would be more like $80-100k more.
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I suspect local variances also set limits on how high a particular building can be if it is surrounded by other homes. Etobicoke only allows about 22ft from grade to eaves. Assuming a basement would eat up about 3ft of that, you you'd only be able to do 11ft in a single level foyer or something. That would kill your gross floor area allowed per lot
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I think another aspect would drive up costs. In order to execute the concept well, you would want to spend *lots* of money for high-end millwork or else the place could end up feeling more like a gymnasium than a palace.
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blackn54 wrote: Not that I am building a custom house..but just curious why aren't tall ceiling more common?

I have 9ft ceiling in my house everywhere, except for the great room + foyer/hallway that step down, with 11ft ceiling.

To me the difference between a 9ft ceiling and 11ft ceiling is huge. The extra ceiling just makes the space feel much "nicer"

Why aren't taller ceiling done more often? Is the cost to go from 9ft to 11ft or 12ft ceiling huge?
I mean...on a $1.5m house, I probably wouldn't mind paying $30K more (2%) to go from 9ft to 11ft ceiling.

I am not in the trade, but to me, going higher ceiling simply means longer stud and 10-20% more drywall/paint/bricks.
thriftshopper wrote: Heating cost will be higher, much higher. Warm air rises and you have that much more to heat. Really high ceilings are great for places where it's hot year-round. Unfortunately it's not - even in the mildest climates (where I am) - in Canada.
^ This.

In tropical countries a high ceiling keeps you more comfortable, in cold climates a high ceiling is a drawback.
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I’d rather pay for 9 feet in the basement for a finished 8 feet than taller on the main floor

Also, drywall etc comes 8 and 12 and special order 10 and 16 feet.
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TomLafinsky wrote: One thing for sure, with 11' one would need a small ladder to reach the highest cabinets in the kitchen Face With Tears Of Joy
My elderly father-in-law in Budapest has what must be a 12 foot ceiling if not higher. Last time I was there I saw a light bulb was burnt out. I offered to dig out the ladder and replace it. "Don't bother," he said, "that's been burnt out for 20 years, I've learned to live without it."
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Simple answer, Zoning. PITA to ask for height variances
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TomLafinsky wrote: Ha! Ha! Ha! That's funny!!! Last week I was wondering what people do when a light is burn in a family room opened all the way to the attic? I have a ceiling fan in my family room and decided it was time to clean it. So I got two scaffoldings from the basement to do the job. But few homeowners have scaffolding. So what do people do here in Canada when a light is burned 20' high??? Hire someone to change light bulbs???
We were close to buying a house that was 2 stories in the main room with a small second floor just for 2 bedrooms and a bathroom. It had about 30 Halogen lights in the main room that were easily 20 feet high. About half of them were burned out in a 5 year old house.

I know the handyman that ended up helping the folks that bought it. Said he use scaffolding! That place must have been a disaster to heat in the winter.
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Depends on the builder.
I own three homes with Urbandale and 9' ceilings are standard.
Also, depending on the model, there's homes with 16'+ cathedral ceilings.
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TomLafinsky wrote: Ha! Ha! Ha! That's funny!!! Last week I was wondering what people do when a light is burn in a family room opened all the way to the attic? I have a ceiling fan in my family room and decided it was time to clean it. So I got two scaffoldings from the basement to do the job. But few homeowners have scaffolding. So what do people do here in Canada when a light is burned 20' high??? Hire someone to change light bulbs???
In a previous house we had 17' ceilings in the foyer and living room. We had a huge light fixture in the foyer with 15 light bulbs. In the 3 years we lived there we never turned it on as there was no way I was renting or buying a huge ladder just to change the light bulbs. Also means we never dusted it either. :-)
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We've done the double high ceilings and open to above rooms in previous homes. So over it. It looks nice, but not the greatest to live in. Depending on the room, you can have issues with sound and heating and cooling issues.

A relative just built a custom bungalow with 10' ceilings. At first I loved it, but having stayed in the home several times now, I feel it is a waste of space. It is more cubic space to heat and cool. In the kitchen, they had to install a run of cabinets to visually add to the kitchen. Looks wonderful, but I discovered that at 6'3", I cannot reach the cupboards. Can't imagine getting a ladder when I needed to reach them. Just not practical.

I have visited model homes with 11' ceilings. Just felt cold to me. I'll stick with my 9' ceilings.
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TomLafinsky wrote: Hey, stop talking about my house like that! Face With Tears Of Joy

Seriously, you can't have it all. I noticed that very often in life what can look extremely stylish is often not convenient. My house is like a museum, it looks stunning. But I would never want to live here if I had children because you hear everything, sort of. Mine is open all the way to the attic (~20') in more than one place...

Heating/cooling costs are not bad... But cleaning the ceiling fan in the family room like I did last week requires 2 scaffoldings. Changing a burnt light would require 2 scaffoldings + a short ladder on top of the highest scaffolding or 3 scaffoldings. Not to mention furniture must be moved out of the way. Fortunately LED lights last a long time. Biggest pita is carrying all the parts of the scaffoldings from the basement to ground floor, putting it together and then disassembling and bringing everything back to the basement.

I guess many/most people live in houses with dirty ceiling fans and burnt lights Face With Tears Of Joy
And painting those rooms is a real PITA. We've done it - never again. We recently viewed a model home with a huge cathedral and my first thought was no thanks - I am not painting that.
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skeet50 wrote: We've done the double high ceilings and open to above rooms in previous homes. So over it. It looks nice, but not the greatest to live in. Depending on the room, you can have issues with sound and heating and cooling issues.

A relative just built a custom bungalow with 10' ceilings. At first I loved it, but having stayed in the home several times now, I feel it is a waste of space. It is more cubic space to heat and cool. In the kitchen, they had to install a run of cabinets to visually add to the kitchen. Looks wonderful, but I discovered that at 6'3", I cannot reach the cupboards. Can't imagine getting a ladder when I needed to reach them. Just not practical.

I have visited model homes with 11' ceilings. Just felt cold to me. I'll stick with my 9' ceilings.
How do you think people who are short feel? They have to use a ladder/step stool even with 9' ceilings :lol:

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