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Team Cat Rescue - Rant

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Team Cat Rescue - Rant

so very disappointed with them. I made a mistake on my application with references saying i wanted 'to discuss' with them and got a very cold response saying that my application was rejected. I said "oops, i'll re-do it and do it right" and their response was 'theres only one application allowed and your file is permanently closed'

I'm in shock that a registered charity/cat rescue would take this approach. I've had a cat for nearly 17 years and she recently passed, found the cutest bonded pair of kittens and really annoyed that a simple mistake would forbid me from even meeting them. **** childish/stupidy.

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OP - Rescues are very funny and as to your point about meeting the kittens, well good luck with that. Some rescues won't even allow that. I know of a woman who wants a kitten but wants to meet the kitten in person. She, like us, wants the kitten to pick her.

Was your only mistake on the application stating that you wanted to discuss the kittens with them or was there something else?

I know that for a dog you need a completely fenced back yard (in most cases - even though you might never, ever let your dog off the leash (think us) and then there the matter of our ages). A person on our street was told she was too old at 64 to adopt a senior dog. Really! But we absolutely do not want our pet to outlive us. And we are older than 64.

I don't understand why rescues want 3 personal references and 1 from a vet. I would think that it would be the other way around - at least in our case.

It is a lot easier though to adopt a cat from a rescue than a dog. I browse the rescues etc. since our dog passed at 16.5 years of age in April of 2020.

I would suggest going through your vet if it were not for the pandemic. Our vet used to put kittens and cats that were surrendered/found in crates in the lobby. 100% success rate.
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what did you say to offend them?
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bluenose2 wrote: what did you say to offend them?
From his post it sounds like he didn't want to give out references.
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Literally nothing. i filled out their intake form and wanted 'to discuss' the three references they were looking for, if it was references who have pets, references who i've known for a long time etc. No other pet adoption service asks for three references on their web intake form.

It's interesting that in a span of 24 hours i was able to adopt a bonded pair of 6 month olds without an issue from another adoption centre. No references needed to be given at all.
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Blanche123 wrote: OP - Rescues are very funny and as to your point about meeting the kittens, well good luck with that. Some rescues won't even allow that. I know of a woman who wants a kitten but wants to meet the kitten in person. She, like us, wants the kitten to pick her.

Was your only mistake on the application stating that you wanted to discuss the kittens with them or was there something else?

I know that for a dog you need a completely fenced back yard (in most cases - even though you might never, ever let your dog off the leash (think us) and then there the matter of our ages). A person on our street was told she was too old at 64 to adopt a senior dog. Really! But we absolutely do not want our pet to outlive us. And we are older than 64.

I don't understand why rescues want 3 personal references and 1 from a vet. I would think that it would be the other way around - at least in our case.

It is a lot easier though to adopt a cat from a rescue than a dog. I browse the rescues etc. since our dog passed at 16.5 years of age in April of 2020.

I would suggest going through your vet if it were not for the pandemic. Our vet used to put kittens and cats that were surrendered/found in crates in the lobby. 100% success rate.
Yup, never even got to the point of a telephone conversation or anything. It was an email back to paraphrase, 'you filled out the web application incorrectly so we have perma-banned you from our services'
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coriolis wrote: From his post it sounds like he didn't want to give out references.
I would've been more than happy to give three references but the speed of how pets are adopted these days, i thought the best thing to do was get my application in for a bonded pair i eyed on their website quickly and to provide the references somwhere between the application submission and actually adopting them. It's too bad that the admin acted like that and those two kittens have to wait longer. Happily enough i found another bonded pair that have already spent a night here, with a rescue that actually took the 5 minutes to call me back to chat first.
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djfunk - Happy to hear that you managed to find your kittens elsewhere.

I can tell you though that other rescues want 3 personal references too and "maybe" one from your vet! I would think that it would be the other way around. My previous vet clinic had 4 vets each of whom would have given great references for us, and 2 specialists the same.

We would need a senior dog at this point in our lives and preferably one that had been cared for by our vet clinic for many years. Don't want much do we? The chances these days are slim to non-existent. Well maybe in 2 years time when I fear for all of the "pandemic puppies". But we will be too old by then and we absolutely cannot outlive our dog. Fostering is not an option since we would "fail" - unless of course our previous vet clinic asked us to take care of a pup temporarily!
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Blanche123 wrote: djfunk - Happy to hear that you managed to find your kittens elsewhere.

I can tell you though that other rescues want 3 personal references too and "maybe" one from your vet! I would think that it would be the other way around. My previous vet clinic had 4 vets each of whom would have given great references for us, and 2 specialists the same.

We would need a senior dog at this point in our lives and preferably one that had been cared for by our vet clinic for many years. Don't want much do we? The chances these days are slim to non-existent. Well maybe in 2 years time when I fear for all of the "pandemic puppies". But we will be too old by then and we absolutely cannot outlive our dog. Fostering is not an option since we would "fail" - unless of course our previous vet clinic asked us to take care of a pup temporarily!
maybe thats an option for your to become a foster parent! i know quite a few people do it and they end up finding their perfect pet through that method. I hope you can find your pet companion as it definitely brings a different level of happiness in a house.

getting references wasn't an issue, it was the absolute disqualification for life based on a web intake form. I did talk to the volunteer at the rescue where i got my new kittens from and asked where they came from, whats their journey been like etc but there never truly is a way of knowing. All we can do is offer a loving house going forwards and give eachother a happy life.
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Yes, we would make fabulous foster parents and of course would fail - but we also couldn't deal with all of the c@rp that goes with fostering - unless of course we fostered through our former (it has been 6 months) vet - and her practice was the vet in question. That would be important for us. We have contacted her.

We also could have personal references, but we really took care of our pets and would think that vet references would be more official than general references. I just can't get my head around that. Why not both?!

In the meantime, we seem to have a "vacancy" sign on our front window. Even for pets that have homes. All dogs love me - don't know why but they do. Hence why we absolutely couldn't outlive our pets. I hope you enjoy your new kittens!
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djfunk wrote: maybe thats an option for your to become a foster parent! i know quite a few people do it and they end up finding their perfect pet through that method. I hope you can find your pet companion as it definitely brings a different level of happiness in a house.

getting references wasn't an issue, it was the absolute disqualification for life based on a web intake form. I did talk to the volunteer at the rescue where i got my new kittens from and asked where they came from, whats their journey been like etc but there never truly is a way of knowing. All we can do is offer a loving house going forwards and give eachother a happy life.
I'm glad it worked out for you in the end!

I've encountered pet rescues that are that stringent, to the extent it felt like I was interviewing for a job. I can see them thinking "this person can't even fill in a simple form, how can they seriously care for this animal for life". I get why - they spend a lot of time and money rescuing the animals and want to make sure they go to the absolute best home - but at the same time that excludes many good homes and reduces the number of animals that can be rehomed. I went through the same thing when I was looking for a cat. Sometimes I wanted to say "I'm trying to do the right thing and do a good deed by adopting a homeless animal - I'm doing you a favour, so why are you acting like you're doing me the favour??"
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djfunk wrote: so very disappointed with them. I made a mistake on my application with references saying i wanted 'to discuss' with them and got a very cold response saying that my application was rejected. I said "oops, i'll re-do it and do it right" and their response was 'theres only one application allowed and your file is permanently closed'

I'm in shock that a registered charity/cat rescue would take this approach. I've had a cat for nearly 17 years and she recently passed, found the cutest bonded pair of kittens and really annoyed that a simple mistake would forbid me from even meeting them. **** childish/stupidy.

/rant

Rescues can be weird, as can outfits like the Humane Society.

Several years ago John Downing of the Toronto Sun wrote a column explaining that he had been turned down by the Toronto Humane Society when he tried to adopt a dog after his previous one had passed, and the denial was despite him living on a nice farm and sitting on the Board of the Toronto Humane Society!!!
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SkynyrdsInyrds wrote: Rescues can be weird, as can outfits like the Humane Society.

Several years ago John Downing of the Toronto Sun wrote a column explaining that he had been turned down by the Toronto Humane Society when he tried to adopt a dog after his previous one had passed, and the denial was despite him living on a nice farm and sitting on the Board of the Toronto Humane Society!!!
Maybe they wanted to keep it "arm's length".
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SkynyrdsInyrds wrote: Rescues can be weird, as can outfits like the Humane Society.

Several years ago John Downing of the Toronto Sun wrote a column explaining that he had been turned down by the Toronto Humane Society when he tried to adopt a dog after his previous one had passed, and the denial was despite him living on a nice farm and sitting on the Board of the Toronto Humane Society!!!
Maybe cause he's affiliated with Toronto Sun lol
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We had similar issues with an agency that didn't like the fact we wanted a heads up before they began checking with our references. Their reply was terse, to say the least, and that adoption process didn't go anywhere.

Another time, we were denied cat adoption because I didn't categorically promise that we would not move for the foreseeable future. Our application was denied on the grounds that our home was "unstable"! My wife told me I should have just told them what they wanted to hear, although I was fairly naïve at the time, and assumed the agency rep was just making conversation.
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Agreed that they're awful to deal with.

The interviewer I got was rude and snippy, and somehow whoever called my vet misappropriated what the vet had told them.

Unfortunately, there appears to be a lot of rescues that use these childish tactics.

If you're looking for a rescue that is much easier to deal with, try Paws and Tails in Mississauga. Shirley Cook (the person who runs it) is a pleasure to deal with, and the process was so much less of a headache. After telling Team to (essentially) F-off, I went to Paws and Tails and Shirley found me the perfect companion. She knows her cats, and despite my hesitations re female cats (I went in specifically looking for a male with a laid-back attitude) - especially calicos and tortoiseshells, which are known to have a bit of an attitude - she somehow convinced me that a female would actually be better in my situation, not to mention I somehow ended up bonding with a calico, and I ended up bringing her home the next day. I don't regret my choice one bit, and would absolutely recommend Paws and Tails.
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I had the same experience. I lost one kitty to cancer, lost one to missed diagnosed from a vet but we had two Tabbies. We changed vets because if the previous vet did what I asked him to she would be alive. So we got kitten from Kijiji, we went to a new vet all went well shots etc Then we wanted another kitten for him. So I contacted them and we had amazing references, even a cousin who is a vet up north. Plus an outdoor catio on the balcony. But I refused to give them the old vet name because I no longer want any contact with him. I was crying telling them I can't give it to them, she kept pushing and pushing saying she needs it or else . At the end I said cancel the application and hung up. Heartless people. Now we are happy with three and spend the extra money on raw food for them.
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Recently went through a cat adoption and the process was not smooth at all.
The demand is so high that these cat rescues are going Rogue.
There are multiple interviews, their questions are often very personal. They treat you as if you were bagging for a cat.
Glad I don't have to go through this again for a while.
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I've been looking for a new pet lately as well in recent months (my last ones are deceased as of 2015ish) and can attest to the difficulties. understandable given supply/demand, but compared to pre-covid times its not a pleasant experience at all to go through especially when you start getting into the bidding/reservation wars with breeders. times have changed

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