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Teen stopped for stunt driving had 14 previous traffic charges in 2020: Ottawa Police

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Teen stopped for stunt driving had 14 previous traffic charges in 2020: Ottawa Police

https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/teen-stopped- ... -1.4956592

The teen is 17 and has a G2 and the 14 charges all came in the five months of 2020. The latest charge...suspended for 7 days!!!

So how many chances to you give someone before you stop giving them another?
We're all bozos on the bus until we find a way to express ourselves...

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isn’t this what demerit points are for?
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george__ wrote: isn’t this what demerit points are for?
How many concoctions out of those 14 charges?
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Yet again.....how are the parents controlling this devil they created?
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I sure hope I'm not subsidizing his insurance premium...
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er34er34 wrote: I sure hope I'm not subsidizing his insurance premium...
Of course we are. How else did I get a $200 increase in my premiums this year yet I haven't had an accident in 10 years and my 7 year old Mazda 3 keeps depreciating.
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er34er34 wrote: I sure hope I'm not subsidizing his insurance premium...
shutterbug wrote: Of course we are. How else did I get a $200 increase in my premiums this year yet I haven't had an accident in 10 years and my 7 year old Mazda 3 keeps depreciating.
Unless he wrecked a few vehicles, damaged property, or severely injured someone, his actions doesn't affect us, as the insurance company isn't paying out anything.
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This kid's racked up more charges in 5 months, than i have in my last 15 years of driving
When given enough time, all threads on RFD can and will go off on a tangent.
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vkizzle wrote: Unless he wrecked a few vehicles, damaged property, or severely injured someone, his actions doesn't affect us, as the insurance company isn't paying out anything.
Is he paying his fair share of his premiums considering his reckless actions makes him more likely to eventually result in a significant payout?

Isn't that how insurance is suppose to work?

If I'm paying 1000/yr, is he paying 15000/yr for being 15x more reckless?
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vkizzle wrote: Unless he wrecked a few vehicles, damaged property, or severely injured someone, his actions doesn't affect us, as the insurance company isn't paying out anything.
14 charges in 5 months indicate to me that he's not the sharpest tool in the shed.

Dimwits like him are the ones that cause accidents.

He hasn't caused any wreckages yet but given time, he surely will cause accidents and harm/injure others.
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Driving is not a right, it's a privilege.

Money is what's keeping this MOFO on the road. Parents bailing him out and government/police profiting off him.
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When someone has 15 traffic charges in a 5 month span, they legit need to have their license permanently suspended. Most of the time, people get away with their traffic violations, the fact he got caught 15 times means he's probably committed many hundreds of traffic violations, maybe over a thousand. Most of the general public speed regularly & don't get caught, you gotta be driving stupid crazy to get caught 15 times in 5 months.
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The back story to this seems to be that he's fighting the charges and because of COVID19 the charges to date haven't made it to his file. Plus courts have had scheduling issues because of the pandemic. We don't know much more about him and his parents might not yet know. If he's still driving, then he has observed his previous suspensions, if any. He's clearly a problem and needs to be taken off the road. I am sure that, in due course, he'll be taken care of and, because the media has picked up the story, that might now be fast-tracked.

On a related note, I continue to be stunned by the number of aggressive and bad drivers here in the Ottawa area during this pandemic. Tailgating, speeding, redlight running, etc. Some of the worst offenders these days aren't the usual suspects but rather the econoboxes and the F150/Ram/Silverado/Tundra crowd. None of these that I encounter look like rich pampered children but rather just the regular sort, maybe missing a chromosome or two...
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CaptSmethwick wrote: The back story to this seems to be that he's fighting the charges and because of COVID19 the charges to date haven't made it to his file. Plus courts have had scheduling issues because of the pandemic. We don't know much more about him and his parents might not yet know. If he's still driving, then he has observed his previous suspensions, if any. He's clearly a problem and needs to be taken off the road. I am sure that, in due course, he'll be taken care of and, because the media has picked up the story, that might now be fast-tracked.

On a related note, I continue to be stunned by the number of aggressive and bad drivers here in the Ottawa area during this pandemic. Tailgating, speeding, redlight running, etc. Some of the worst offenders these days aren't the usual suspects but rather the econoboxes and the F150/Ram/Silverado/Tundra crowd. None of these that I encounter look like rich pampered children but rather just the regular sort, maybe missing a chromosome or two...
Speeding has definitely gotten worse during the lockdown here in Ottawa, but the stupidity has always been around.
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Police forces in Ontario, citizens - could you please understand once and for all that the stunt driving law is just not working?

The stunt driving law was introduced to stop street racing more than 10 years ago. However, street racing is still happening to this day. You just need to know where to look.

Also, the law has not been a deterrent to people like this teen in Ottawa. You think the habitual speedster is going to be afraid of getting caught? After 14 tickets, you become an expert at fighting them.
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I'm sure they are aware. Doubt they give two shits as long as money is coming in.

I discussed this before, many disagree...

Take drinking and driving which seems to KILL more innocent. Why not hand out say, 1 year in prison or a $250,000 fine for the first offence?

I admit if I was rich, I can take more risk, I have no problems doing, I mean would love to drive 200km+ from time to time. LOL
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bembol wrote: I'm sure they are aware. Doubt they give two shits as long as money is coming in.

I discussed this before, many disagree...

Take drinking and driving which seems to KILL more innocent. Why not hand out say, 1 year in prison or a $250,000 fine for the first offence?

I admit if I was rich, I can take more risk, I have no problems doing, I mean would love to drive 200km+ from time to time. LOL
But we already have the most strict laws in Canada, maybe North America, which by the way are unconstitutional (stunt driving laws). And it is still happening.

The solution is not to make punishment worse and worse, but to change the minimum educational requirement.

The licensing system needs to be changed to reflect Europe's... with a minimal practical training (many hours) at each license level... and advanced defensive driving school of many more hours to get a full license...

Challenge: It would create a "cottage industry" of small driving schools that need to be regulated by the government, so they teach the right curriculum.

Challenge: people who can't afford mandatory driving school may never be able to get a license.
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motomondo wrote: Police forces in Ontario, citizens - could you please understand once and for all that the stunt driving law is just not working?

The stunt driving law was introduced to stop street racing more than 10 years ago. However, street racing is still happening to this day. You just need to know where to look.

Also, the law has not been a deterrent to people like this teen in Ottawa. You think the habitual speedster is going to be afraid of getting caught? After 14 tickets, you become an expert at fighting them.
Actually he probably hasn't fought any of them yet, due to the court closures. Likely they will lump them all together, he'll plead to one or two major ones, and get a 1 year driving prohib or something like that

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