Tesla Ownership Experience (Car Talk ONLY)

SmartElectric wrote: ↑ Sure... Tesla 3 Performance is a full second faster in acceleration to 100 km/h, track tested to be faster than the M3 by Top Gear ... and you're here to tell us how the Tesla isn't comparable for interior, well OK, but the BMW is not comparable for performance, find something truly up to the level of the Tesla acceleration and track mode technical capability with fully adjustable drivetrain, then compare the price. I'll wait...

EP32k2 wrote: ↑ I agree. The materials used in the interior are no doubt better than an econo car. But it’s also not luxurious.

corcoran_chris wrote: ↑ so, in anticipation for the cybertruck I will need to upgrade the panel in my home to 200A.

I will also have the electrician prep the garage for a charger as well.

my question is what is my BEST option? should I just run a conduit so I can pull wires when needed? or get a plug of some sort installed? what is the highest amp plug that can be used? or is hard wired best? I am a bit overwhelmed when it comes to options with this.

Thanks

xrvr wrote: ↑ LOL. 20 years ago this interior was the benchmark for the rest of the industry.
It had a cassette player, if you haven't noticed it.



And everyone was content with paying C$65k. for it.

EP32k2 wrote: ↑ Dude what are you arguing? I have a Model 3 Performance...
I strictly said interior. Where did I say anything about comparing performance? Go back and quote everything I said and start your argument instead of selecting tidbits.

Evil Baby wrote: ↑ First, do you actually need 200A service? I'm always kind of surprised when people say this, but if you do, so be it.

Second, best option is to run a sub panel in your garage so that you have options for the future incase you'd like to add extra plugs or possible a second car charger.

Doing a quick Google, it says if you use Tesla's wall charger you can us upto 48 amps, if you just use a 14-50 plug and the mobile adapter you're maxed out at 32 amps.

With that in mind I'd either go with an 80A or 60A sub panel unless you plan on doing something more serious in the garage in the future while you're charging your vehicle at max pull.

corcoran_chris wrote: ↑ I would imagine I would since I have a hot tub on a 60amp breaker already in my 100 amp panel.

tehwegz wrote: ↑ I honestly don't give a damn about the interior. The more simple the better. Tesla's luxury lies in its tech. And user friendliness. And things that make you wonder where its been all your life like controlling HVAC from your phone - you won't find that nearly as well integrated in anything else. Well now you will due to competition that took long enough to catch up.

I get in to every single vehicle GM including Cadillac has, and facepalm at the amount of buttons, the absolutely stupid arrangements, and buttons that are touch but are also buttons...but you touch them...and they absolutely suck in winter. Buttons are often unresponsive until "oh yeah, you pressed me, I guess I will do what you want".

The Tesla touchscreens have been the best in the business since the first Model S' in 2012. I remember the first time getting in one. Pretty much had me. Everything else was so 2005 by comparison. I actually preferred 2005 for still having the simple, functional interiors and not trying to reinvent the wheel so many times like I see GM and Ford doing with some of their crap. Who the hell needs a console slide shifter to fold down flush with the cupholders...like why? Why am I selecting gears like it's a microwave or other household appliance. The Mercedes stalk shifter in the Tesla I really liked. Mercedes is my favourite luxury brand. BMW to me nowadays is just a cheap made in Mexico knock off that still does dumb crap like cooling systems / water pumps made out of plastic.

Lexus drives me mad as well. Its operation in a nutshell is Bop it, spin it, twist it, pull it...some of the things are just maddening to the point I couldn't buy a modern Lexus. Touch screens are dog crap in almost every Japanese vehicle I've tried. Legacy car manufacturers need all the help they can get with tech. And now they are being choked out due to chip shortages.

typer100 wrote: ↑ Why can they do both? A great car with awesome tech.
It's car. Not just a tablet. Point A to B. Sometimes, when you actually drive the car, it could be a better place.

typer100 wrote: ↑ Why can they do both?

noobsrus wrote: ↑ Technology wise .Tesla is minimum 5 years ahead of its nearest completion .
That's what makes the car more expensive
If luxury wise they started competing with the other brands there car will be so expensive that it will get out of the reach of people like me and only over 100 k minimum.

So u can't just pay around 50 to 60 and want tesla to give u the interior like other gas car manufacturers. They have to cut corners somewhere to keep it in the price range. And I am totally ok with it .there interior is nice and people buy tesla for there technology.

knapper wrote: ↑ I will agree to disagree on this one, unless you are only considering the battery. IMHO the rest of Tesla tech may be a bit ahead, but well less than 5 years, I see Elon/Tesla as a maverick in the industry, letting people beta test tech for him so that they can 'learn' and collect a ton of data, and an unfortunate side effect is that there will be the occasional death...

corcoran_chris wrote: ↑ so, in anticipation for the cybertruck I will need to upgrade the panel in my home to 200A.

I will also have the electrician prep the garage for a charger as well.

my question is what is my BEST option? should I just run a conduit so I can pull wires when needed? or get a plug of some sort installed? what is the highest amp plug that can be used? or is hard wired best? I am a bit overwhelmed when it comes to options with this.

Thanks

noobsrus wrote: ↑ Technology wise .Tesla is minimum 5 years ahead of its nearest completion .
That's what makes the car more expensive
If luxury wise they started competing with the other brands there car will be so expensive that it will get out of the reach of people like me and only over 100 k minimum.

So u can't just pay around 50 to 60 and want tesla to give u the interior like other gas car manufacturers. They have to cut corners somewhere to keep it in the price range. And I am totally ok with it .there interior is nice and people buy tesla for there technology.

mr_raider wrote: ↑ They lack the expertise. The reason they lack the expertise is that management does not view it as priority goal. It is what it is.

Watch sandy Munro's videos on youtube.

noobsrus wrote: ↑ I would not compare tech of a ev to gas cars ...it's comparing Apple to Apple...so I am comparing ev to ev ...we have an audi etron in family as well and since it's interior is far more nicer than tesla but tech is not even close to what tesla have

When u compare tech .Tesla have put ut out tested whats working whats not for there ev .other companies are now putting it out .they still have to get tested whats working whats not and than make improvements .that's min 5 year gap

typer100 wrote: ↑ If you take the SC network away... And compare with a Ford offer in the MAch-E, what is so different tech wise? Last time I've checked it's still written BETA everywhere in the AP and FSD option. You have to acknowledge/agree to the disclaimer to select it.
They were first. They are not alone now.

typer100 wrote: ↑ I don't have to watch it. I own a Tesla. It's obvious that they have the brain power to build great stuff and have the money to hire the right people.
So if they cared, they could improve the car part. Instead, they show me recycle bins and make the car fart.