$187.49 Delonghi KG532 burr Coffee grinder

For $13 more you can get a Baratza Encore which is world's better than this.

$187 is regular price for the Dedica. i bought it for this price off amazon (regular price) a couple months back. I bought it because i have a Delonghi Espresso maker so it looks nice beside one another.

You're right, The Baratza Encore is a better grinder but it doesn't look nice on my counter top =)

coffee noob here, why the grinder is so expensive? Can someone kindly explain?

Grinder is the most important part of coffee making. Consistent, fine grinds = good coffee. Its especially important for espresso

Blade grinders are cheaper, and t hey create inconsistent grinds.
Conical Blade grinders are more expensive, but creates a more consistent and fine grind.

Prior to this Delonghi, I use to have a Cusinart Burr Grinder which was much louder. Conical Burr grinders are expensive due to the precision required to create the grinder burrs.

hans136 wrote: ↑ coffee noob here, why the grinder is so expensive? Can someone kindly explain?

burr grinders (both conical and flat burr) produce more consistent coffee grounds than blade grinders as others have said. this particular grinder is stepped, which really limits the different applications. probably good for drip coffee and possibly french press, but problematic for espresso extractions.

blade grinders can give you grounds anywhere from fines (super small, almost like dust) to boulders (partial beans)--the key to good extraction is to have consistent exposure of coffee solids to water.

think of it like a sieve--the burr grinders are much better at grinding down to the chosen size and only letting those grounds pass through.
blade grinders have no real sieve to sort the sizes of grounds. . .

consistent ground size is important because if the grind is the wrong size for the method of extraction, you will get either an over or under extraction, and a finished drink that is either bitter or sour

User131439 wrote: ↑ For $13 more you can get a Baratza Encore which is world's better than this.

Oh is that right? They only have black and white. Don’t like the look. Wish they have stainless steel. Will not match with my new Braun coffee machine.

Chuchunyin wrote: ↑ Grinder is the most important part of coffee making. Consistent, fine grinds = good coffee. Its especially important for espresso

Blade grinders are cheaper, and t hey create inconsistent grinds.
Conical Blade grinders are more expensive, but creates a more consistent and fine grind.

Prior to this Delonghi, I use to have a Cusinart Burr Grinder which was much louder. Conical Burr grinders are expensive due to the precision required to create the grinder burrs.

If one just wants an espresso why wouldn't you just buy a netespresso and bypass the effort into grinding your beans even further and put that $187+ into the machine which you can buy pods for?

TheRock2012 wrote: ↑ If one just wants an espresso why wouldn't you just buy a netespresso and bypass the effort into grinding your beans even further and put that $187+ into the machine which you can buy pods for?

Because pods taste like crap when compared to freshly ground beans.

TheRock2012 wrote: ↑ If one just wants an espresso why wouldn't you just buy a netespresso and bypass the effort into grinding your beans even further and put that $187+ into the machine which you can buy pods for?

Trolling?

Normally i would say there are no stupid questions but this qualifies. Do you really think an expresso machine is equal to a convenience pod machine?

Nespresso is not expresso despite the misleading name it is a very crappy coffee maker using a mix of instant coffee and beans ground and packaged ages ago. Most pods have less than 10g total of coffee.

I want ~25-30g in my cup and grind size is the most important part of making a good cup. My setup is a $200 grinder a $10 kettle and a $20 moka pot.

Different people have different preference. some may prefer the convenience of Kcups and Nespresso. However, many would agree using freshly grounded coffee bean is important. For me personally, experimenting with espresso is fun and an art.

Good coffee shops will have a grinder that freshly grounds your coffee and brews your coffee/ espresso. T
IF you prefer Tim Horton's pre-ground coffee, thats not a problem!

sithse7en wrote: ↑ Trolling?

Normally i would say there are no stupid questions but this qualifies. Do you really think an expresso machine is equal to a convenience pod machine?

Nespresso is not expresso despite the misleading name it is a very crappy coffee maker using a mix of instant coffee and beans ground and packaged ages ago. Most pods have less than 10g total of coffee.

I want ~25-30g in my cup and grind size is the most important part of making a good cup. My setup is a $200 grinder a $10 kettle and a $20 moka pot.

No not trolling, just needing an education on the purpose of these grinders to save myself money. Which is the primary reason why we are all here, no?

That you filled this task.
Congratulations to you dude!

On getting a machine to make my coffee:
I am not a coffee connoisseur, as you are making yourself out to be.
I use a keurig for my coffee drinking and it is over 5 years old. So was looking for a valid reason to get the best quality and not spend so much at the same time.

Watched this guy making a cup of espresso and realized that Starbucks is nothing compared to this guy. Really curious how does it taste.

For what it's worth, if you are looking to spend less than 4-500$ on a grinder, please look at the used market. 200$ can get you a decent Baratza, which are also very user friendly for servicing.

If you have a lot of space, definitely consider a commercial model that you can get at a deep discount from all the restaurants (unfortunately) closing down. For example, I have gotten a few Mazzer super jollys for under 200$, which is great if you are willing to put in the work cleaning one up. If it runs you are good, new burrs are around 50-60$.

All that being said, thanks OP for this post. Not a bad price if you do want the peace of mind of buying new and not having dinged, scratched and abused machinery on your countertop.

TheRock2012 wrote: ↑ No not trolling, just needing an education on the purpose of these grinders to save myself money. Which is the primary reason why we are all here, no?

That you filled this task.
Congratulations to you dude!

On getting a machine to make my coffee:
I am not a coffee connoisseur, as you are making yourself out to be.
I use a keurig for my coffee drinking and it is over 5 years old. So was looking for a valid reason to get the best quality and not spend so much at the same time.

Best quality vs time vs cost

Not exactly all in one solution. For me, since we're stuck at home and combination of tea drinking, water drinking and coffee, I just boil a kettle of water for coffee and tea at the same time, and my coffee is made in a french press. Fresh coarse grind makes a huge difference. Not the fastest but not the slowest method either, quality is great and French Press was $18. Grinder was $30 on clearance. Eye-ing a new grinder then mine dies, can't seem to kill it after 8 years....

Quick question. Do I still need a dedicated grinder like this for the full automatic machine? I have a full automatic and am wondering if having this will improve the taste?

I still use an old braun grinder with variable grinding from drip to fine grind for espressos, it makes a big enough difference if you drink coffee regularly and pick up on the subtleties of how the coffee tastes.

hans136 wrote: ↑ Quick question. Do I still need a dedicated grinder like this for the full automatic machine? I have a full automatic and am wondering if having this will improve the taste?

by full automatic, are you refering to an espresso superauto, or a grind-and-brew style coffee maker?

most superauto espresso machines use a stepped burr grinder already, so they are probably going to be pretty close. that being said, more steps equals more adjustability to the vagaries of the coffee beans. a super auto with 12 steps is not going to match a baratza with 40+, and they probably won't have a similar quality burr set.

of course, none of this will matter much if you are drinking primarily milk-based espresso drinks--even more so if you add flavouring/sweeteners.
or, if you can't tell the difference between a timmie's coffee and a french press coffee, then you're all good!

SubmarinePerson wrote: ↑ For what it's worth, if you are looking to spend less than 4-500$ on a grinder, please look at the used market. 200$ can get you a decent Baratza, which are also very user friendly for servicing.

If you have a lot of space, definitely consider a commercial model that you can get at a deep discount from all the restaurants (unfortunately) closing down. For example, I have gotten a few Mazzer super jollys for under 200$, which is great if you are willing to put in the work cleaning one up. If it runs you are good, new burrs are around 50-60$.

All that being said, thanks OP for this post. Not a bad price if you do want the peace of mind of buying new and not having dinged, scratched and abused machinery on your countertop.

Which Baratza you are referring to? Encore model is $199 not on sale at Amazon. Too bad only black and white. No stainless steel. Is this model better than this delonghi?

I would say the Encore is probably a better pick unless you really want a specific look. A Rancilio Rocky would be another option for someone looking for a stainless look in a compact form factor. Don't pay 500$ MSRP for one, but if you can get it used for under 250$ it's a good buy.

If you want to spend ~500$ new for espresso, I'd go with the Eureka Mignon or the Baratza Sette models. Of course, there are other good options but that's just my opinion based on my personnal experience.