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Is there anyway to pass laws to protect landlord in Canada?

The current law really bias towards tenants

If conservatives win a majority government, any possibility to pass laws that protect landlord?

Or this is handled by provincial level?
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Don't hold your breath. Ontario might have the worst anti-landlord laws out there.
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Move to Alberta.
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ilovetoyota wrote: The current law really bias towards tenants

If conservatives win a majority government, any possibility to pass laws that protect landlord?

Or this is handled by provincial level?
Handled by provinces so feds don't have a big say in it.

That being said rental housing will always be heavily regulated and subject to law changes based on what government happens to be in power, since it involves providing a basic human right/social service - shelter. Laws will always be favored towards the one requiring this service, so the tenant.

Of course the provinces could make it easier on landlords when it comes to really bad tenants who don't pay rent or trash the place. In Ontario at least the Ford government seems to be doing this by speeding up evictions and removing rent controls, but again the next government can simply decide to reverse everything again.
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Pretty simple;

Vote CPC, might get a bit better

Vote LPC, will probably get a bit worse

Vote NDP, will definitely get a lot worse
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mazerbeaner wrote: Pretty simple;

Vote CPC, might get a bit better

Vote LPC, will probably get a bit worse

Vote NDP, will definitely get a lot worse
Absolutely. If you have properties and work hard for your living vote CPC always! This is why I will never vote LPC or NDP in my life - both fed and provincially.!
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Rent monthly on airbnb.

Don't worry who ever you vote for will bring in a flood of immigrants pushing rent up further.
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DaveVentura wrote: Rent monthly on airbnb.

Don't worry who ever you vote for will bring in a flood of immigrants pushing rent up further.
We need more immigrants to drive away those poor out of Toronto and Vancouver. The current problem is, those poor one refuses to leave GTA and GVA.
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There is huge entitlement where people think they deserve to live downtown in these metropolitan cities. But the fact is that these areas are becoming very expensive. If you can’t afford it, you will be forced to move outside the city.

It’s Adam Smith’s invisible hand, but instead the entitled people blame the landlords. Oh well!
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CondoMan98 wrote: There is a huge entitlement where people think they deserve to live downtown in these metropolitan cities. But the fact is that these areas are becoming very expensive. If you can’t afford it, you will be forced to move outside the city.

It’s Adam Smith’s invisible hand, but instead the entitled people blame the landlords. Oh well!
The problem is there are a lot of condos being rented out and not a lot of APARTMENTS. There's a difference. But many don't realize that. So you'll have someone making $50K complaining about rent in a luxury condominium in Yorkville. Everything's out of wack because Apartments to me are different than condos being rented out. Then you have mid level condos and luxury condos. Luxury condos are not for average Joe, but average Joe is trying to rent there because there aren't enough apartments out there. So the problem is supply. How landlords get blamed and the government gets off scott free is beyond me. The government is responsible for providing housing. And that's not via people leasing out their own homes. It's actual rental buildings. But you see, the government is greedy, especially in Ontario. Notice the condos are getting taller? They're getting approved easily because that's 60 floors of property tax. That's 60 floors of double land transfer taxes. So of course the government is pushing landlords to buy buy buy. But then come out with strict rent controls. So they try to give the appearance that they're trying to help renters, but they're actually screwing them by not addressing the supply problem. Oh...and they keep ushering more immigrants. So how is the problem going to get resolved? Landlords aren't supposed to fix this problem but are being scapegoated.

Our government is incapable of fixing this problem it seems. All they know how to do is create taxes and mismanage the money.
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JayLove06 wrote: The problem is there are a lot of condos being rented out and not a lot of APARTMENTS. There's a difference. But many don't realize that. So you'll have someone making $50K complaining about rent in a luxury condominium in Yorkville. Everything's out of wack because Apartments to me are different than condos being rented out. Then you have mid level condos and luxury condos. Luxury condos are not for average Joe, but average Joe is trying to rent there because there aren't enough apartments out there. So the problem is supply. How landlords get blamed and the government gets off scott free is beyond me. The government is responsible for providing housing. And that's not via people leasing out their own homes. It's actual rental buildings. But you see, the government is greedy, especially in Ontario. Notice the condos are getting taller? They're getting approved easily because that's 60 floors of property tax. That's 60 floors of double land transfer taxes. So of course the government is pushing landlords to buy buy buy. But then come out with strict rent controls. So they try to give the appearance that they're trying to help renters, but they're actually screwing them by not addressing the supply problem. Oh...and they keep ushering more immigrants. So how is the problem going to get resolved? Landlords aren't supposed to fix this problem but are being scapegoated.

Our government is incapable of fixing this problem it seems. All they know how to do is create taxes and mismanage the money.
They can't fix it because it's not an easy fix. Building apartments isn't profitable as you stated. However, social housing isn't meant to be profitable it's meant to help the poor, the people that work for minimum wage at tim hortons downtown or all the refugees but this is heavily frowned upon when you got folks paying $200/month rents right next to the million dollar condos.

In order to help the largest percentage of population (middle class) the government should lower permit costs, environmental assessment restrictions and ignore all the nimbys in favor of building more high rise condominiums in Toronto. At the same time they need to restrict investors from buying up multiple condos by substantially increasing capital gain taxes for your 2nd property and so on, to the point where folks who have money are deterred from further pushing condo prices to the max. I know many rfd investors won't like this but these solutions cater a little bit to both liberal and conservative voters as well as other industries like construction and real estate boards. The Toronto areas around the subway lines for example should all have 60 story condos, make Toronto like Hong Kong.
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ilovetoyota wrote: We need more immigrants to drive away those poor out of Toronto and Vancouver. The current problem is, those poor one refuses to leave GTA and GVA.
Hahaha .... I agree this is exactly what's happening nowadays, but it does not mean this is necessarily a good thing.
This is exactly the attitude of privileged spoiled cash-flush city-funded officials.
And this is exactly their treatment towards the poor with obvious abuse via over-police and criminalize the poor".
This attitude is a big part of why wealth and income inequality is becoming wider and wider. Leading to even more economic injustice, with more becoming poor, so the rich can hoard even more expensive land and properties that they do not personally need or use, like life is just a big game of monopoly to them.
Many such common examples in Tenancy & Traffic & Environmental areas, with very heavy fines and taxes being imposed to ensure continuation of such abuse.

Social stratification and discrimination & abuse against the poor is definitely very rampant in modern day social dystopia, including in Canada.

Related online article: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... me-america
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ilovetoyota wrote: The current law really bias towards tenants

If conservatives win a majority government, any possibility to pass laws that protect landlord?

Or this is handled by provincial level?
What Bias exactly do you want to change?
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Supahhh wrote: What Bias exactly do you want to change?
Landlord can evict any tenant that are out of contract period.
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ilovetoyota wrote: Landlord can evict any tenant that are out of contract period.
Not true. Only under very specific conditions can they evict. It will likely bankrupt them if it is not legit and they are caught
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Luckyinfil wrote: Not true. Only under very specific conditions can they evict. It will likely bankrupt them if it is not legit and they are caught
That's what he wants! I think landlord should be allowed to evict after the first late payment. Change a few rules and you can have as much rent control as you want.
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mazerbeaner wrote: Pretty simple;

Vote CPC, might get a bit better

Vote LPC, will probably get a bit worse

Vote NDP, will definitely get a lot worse
Not true.
The crazier government you have, the better it is for landlords in long run.
If anything, your expectations for PC to be rational is actually damaging, since more supply can create harder competition for you and lower rent increases.
At the same time, NDP is a perfect party for causing future supply crunch.
All of them want better fairness, but looking at what NDP did in BC...just 200 units offered into presale market last month (77% YoY decline) and only 100 of them absorbed...its truly fascinating for a country with 350k immigrants per year.

All you really need to do as a landlord is just to sit and watch...watch how these socialist entitled people are trying to harass landlords like you for their benefit.
And because they have no financial literacy it always turns against them, while they even don't get how exactly it happened.
The only true dangerous politician for you is the one who really has economic education and understanding of market forces, who is willing to do completely opposite from what people are asking for and voting for...And to be honest, such politicians don't even exist in these elections.
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ilovetoyota wrote: Landlord can evict any tenant that are out of contract period.
Someone calls that place a home. I don't believe people should be in perpetual anxiety about where they are going to live.

If you want short term rentals there is ways to do it , but it involves more work on your part. tenancy laws are only applicable to certain types of tenancies. You don't want that, don't play that game.
Do something else or do rentals that fall outside the these regulations. Work for your money and dont be lazy.
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Supahhh wrote: Someone calls that place a home. I don't believe people should be in perpetual anxiety about where they are going to live.

If you want short term rentals there is ways to do it , but it involves more work on your part. tenancy laws are only applicable to certain types of tenancies. You don't want that, don't play that game.
Do something else or do rentals that fall outside the these regulations. Work for your money and dont be lazy.
The irony.

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