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Thinking of renting out the family home

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Thinking of renting out the family home

Just wanted to see if anyone had any perspectives on some of my plans.

Last year, I lost a baby and a job. The employer was nasty and lied, but there is nothing I can do.

Anyway I am thinking of moving overseas. I live in Vancouver. What are your thoughts on if I rent out the family home. This gives us:

1. Some income while we rent overseas
2. A back up plan in case I come back
3. With the capital appreciation, I'm afraid that if I sell I won't be able to get back in.

Thanks
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Do you have other friends or family members to assist with anything in the event tenants request you to fix or maintain something? That'd be my concern
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I’m sorry for your loss. I cannot imagine going through that.

We have gone overseas twice now and kept our family home for the very same reasons as you (although in Ottawa and not Vancouver but in a desirable neighbourhood). I have no regrets at all keeping it. Yes, there is some added work at tax time and issues will inevitably arise with tenants. I strongly suggest using a professional property manger. It is well worth the cost and their fees are deductible from your rental income. You don’t want to have to deal with lining contractors/repair people when you are half way around the world.
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Thank you..

@BigDurian Do you know what rates are for property managers? Do they look after everything in effect?

If there are damages or problem tenants, would they be the ones who deal with it? I'm considering leaving furniture here too.

Also, who pays utilities or cost for repairs (sorry for all these newbie questions)

Thanks so much
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berrytree wrote: Just wanted to see if anyone had any perspectives on some of my plans.

Last year, I lost a baby and a job. The employer was nasty and lied, but there is nothing I can do.

Anyway I am thinking of moving overseas. I live in Vancouver. What are your thoughts on if I rent out the family home. This gives us:

1. Some income while we rent overseas
2. A back up plan in case I come back
3. With the capital appreciation, I'm afraid that if I sell I won't be able to get back in.

Thanks
I’m sorry for your loss that is a lot to be going through on top of a pandemic. I agree with you that you don’t want to sell and risk not getting back in. If I were you I would get a property management company unless you have a family member willing to assist. The property management companies in Ontario generally will look after evictions and so on. I assume BC will have similar services. They basically collect rent and put the money in your bank account. Also if any repairs are needed they have contractors and will take the money out of the rent as needed.
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@atom2020 already covered most of it. Rates can be all over the place. I’ve paid as low as 4% of monthly rent for a really lousy pm and currently pay about 7% for our fantastic pm.
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berrytree wrote: Just wanted to see if anyone had any perspectives on some of my plans.

Last year, I lost a baby and a job. The employer was nasty and lied, but there is nothing I can do.

Anyway I am thinking of moving overseas. I live in Vancouver. What are your thoughts on if I rent out the family home. This gives us:

1. Some income while we rent overseas
2. A back up plan in case I come back
3. With the capital appreciation, I'm afraid that if I sell I won't be able to get back in.

Thanks

So sorry to hear that, I can't imagine.

I think it's a good idea, find a property manager and you will be good.
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Thank you everyone, I appreciate it all.
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So sorry for your loss.

If I were to do it... I would personally vet the first tenant so I know I'm getting someone solid and good.
That way your first year (and hopefully much more) will be good.

I would see if I can get a friend or family thats still around, to help out with checking up on the place and take care of minor things.
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berrytree wrote: What are your thoughts on if I rent out the family home. This gives us:

1. Some income while we rent overseas
2. A back up plan in case I come back
3. With the capital appreciation, I'm afraid that if I sell I won't be able to get back in.
Not a bad idea. Do not expect to make a profit. That would only be a bonus.

Factor in change-of-use for your principal residence, and also the time to boot the tenant when you return and want it back for personal use. Keep in mind the property could be damaged and worn-out when you return, too bad for you. You will also need proper accounting for expenses (e.g. mortgage interest, maintenance, property tax), potential increase in property value of your income generating investment. If you know nothing, get some tax/accounting help.

You did not say whether you have any experience as a landlord. If it goes poorly, and it can, you can be majorly screwed.
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Sorry for your loss.

If you do rent out your family house, consider the tax consequences. Just because you are collecting $3k in rent here, may not mean you have $3k net to spend overseas.

Depending on where you are going, if the prices over there will appreciate as well, it may make sense to sell and buy overseas. Another alternative is (if the situation permits) is to downsize, get a condo in Vancouver and get a property wherever you are going.
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Furcorn wrote: Not a bad idea. Do not expect to make a profit. That would only be a bonus.

Factor in change-of-use for your principal residence, and also the time to boot the tenant when you return and want it back for personal use. Keep in mind the property could be damaged and worn-out when you return, too bad for you. You will also need proper accounting for expenses (e.g. mortgage interest, maintenance, property tax), potential increase in property value of your income generating investment. If you know nothing, get some tax/accounting help.

You did not say whether you have any experience as a landlord. If it goes poorly, and it can, you can be majorly screwed.
No experience as a landlord. Do you think an experienced property manager could alleviate any potential issues?
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realtorhome wrote: Sorry for your loss.

If you do rent out your family house, consider the tax consequences. Just because you are collecting $3k in rent here, may not mean you have $3k net to spend overseas.

Depending on where you are going, if the prices over there will appreciate as well, it may make sense to sell and buy overseas. Another alternative is (if the situation permits) is to downsize, get a condo in Vancouver and get a property wherever you are going.
Thank you for the kind words and advice too.
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I would not leave the country and my house without a professional management company left in charge. They will do everything including looking after emergency problems and repairs.. Sure you are paying for the service but it is an expense gainst rental income.
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berrytree wrote: No experience as a landlord. Do you think an experienced property manager could alleviate any potential issues?
It could help with a small portion of the overall problem, i.e. maintenance. You have bigger worries though which you seem to have ignored.
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dougboswell wrote: I would not leave the country and my house without a professional management company left in charge. They will do everything including looking after emergency problems and repairs.. Sure you are paying for the service but it is an expense gainst rental income.
Thanks, Doug
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Furcorn wrote: It could help with a small portion of the overall problem, i.e. maintenance. You have bigger worries though which you seem to have ignored.
You mean taxes or the part where you said you can be screwed? It'd be helpful if you can be more explicit rather than throw daggers?
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berrytree wrote: Thank you..

@BigDurian Do you know what rates are for property managers? Do they look after everything in effect?

If there are damages or problem tenants, would they be the ones who deal with it? I'm considering leaving furniture here too.

Also, who pays utilities or cost for repairs (sorry for all these newbie questions)

Thanks so much
The one we used charged 10%. You are responsible for paying for repairs. Your tenant puts utilities in their name and pays them. The property manager should deal with any problems (we did this when we moved to Ottawa and kept a townhouse in Victoria).
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Keep in mind, your decision to rent out your house is considered a change of use and there will likely be tax ramifications if/when you decide to sell. You might be well served to speak to an expert on these matters before deciding what is the best option for you.

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