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Thoughts on Verge Condo

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Thoughts on Verge Condo

Hi,

Any thoughts on the pre-con Verge Condos at 1001 Queensway?

Any opinions on the area?

If not this project then which?

Thanks
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I think its pretty good location.
Average is $1150 sqft.
being built by Riocan.
West tower is being released first
coming out in two weeks.
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oasis100 wrote:
being built by Riocan.
So that's a bit of unknown since they got into residential just recently (one condo completed if i am not mistaken) after being in retail for decades.
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Does Riocan own that entire retail plaza? Building a condo on top of retail land you have owned for years seems like quite the profitable move.
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DaMan12 wrote: Does Riocan own that entire retail plaza? Building a condo on top of residential land you have owned for years seems like quite the profitable move.
Not sure if they own it but they have been talking about diversifying from retail for quite a while now, I think it's a great move on their part, I am just not sure about the built quality from a new entrant into the condo business.
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I believe they do own the entire plaza
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DaMan12 wrote: Does Riocan own that entire retail plaza? Building a condo on top of retail land you have owned for years seems like quite the profitable move.
They have to diversify after the shit kicking they took from covid.

Another gangster in the space that's doing something similar (diversification) is Slate REIT, grocery anchored plaza locations that can be converted to last mile delivery/warehousing angle, etc. Guys are forward thinking.
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a lot of retail plaza ownere are diversifying like this. converting parking lots to condos.

Bayview village is heading towards that.
sherway gardens it happened already.
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I like the area, not a lot of condos around the area other than Zorra
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The largest one would be Oxford Properties they are going for a massive redevelopment of the underused lands around Square One Shopping center.
It only makes sense..the whole idea of open parking spaces, taking up more land than the actual shopping center was just an easier design. It didn't help the shopper either, lugging bags during crazy weather etc..at least we have good post signage nowadays..or else looking for your car after a good day of shopping was like playing egg hunt.
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RichmondCA wrote: They have to diversify after the shit kicking they took from covid.

Another gangster in the space that's doing something similar (diversification) is Slate REIT, grocery anchored plaza locations that can be converted to last mile delivery/warehousing angle, etc. Guys are forward thinking.
I think they started doing it about 10 years ago or even more, they knew they had to diversify but in this industry it's a slow process.
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Not a big fan of the area but definitely revamping going on. Might be a worthwhile investment.
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There will be 12 affordable rental units in this project, how will that affect pricing? What is the typical tenant demographic and how much can you pull in rent in this area?
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Seeknfind wrote: Hi,

Any thoughts on the pre-con Verge Condos at 1001 Queensway?

Any opinions on the area?

If not this project then which?

Thanks
It is a nice area, you would be close to the lake (not walking distance) but a quick ride away. You are also a 10 min drive to high park, about a 5 min drive to Sherway, you could also get to Mimico Station and take the go train or go to Islington station in a few min by car. I don't find that area to be the best for public transportation. It could take you almost an hour from there to get downtown via public transit - you would be either going to islington and then across the subway line then south or taking the bus then going on the 501 street car. You would probably be able to get downtown faster by going to mimico and its 2 stops away if you do it that way. Guessing you are looking to invest and may not be living there but just something to keep in mind. If you look at the past sales of Zorra which is a condo nearby where this is being built you will notice a 1 plus 1 and 2 bedroom that were in the 600-699 range last sold for 615k and 699k and a larger 2 bedroom (800-900) sq ft sold for 695k. Online it says the average price per sq ft is around $900. So the price they have Verge at I feel is a very good price point. Also regarding renting right now a 1 bedroom there seems to go for around 1800 and 2 bedrooms are at $2200 and up depending on the size of the unit. I do not know about the builder so that would be something to consider.
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atom2020 wrote: It is a nice area, you would be close to the lake (not walking distance) but a quick ride away. You are also a 10 min drive to high park, about a 5 min drive to Sherway, you could also get to Mimico Station and take the go train or go to Islington station in a few min by car. I don't find that area to be the best for public transportation. It could take you almost an hour from there to get downtown via public transit - you would be either going to islington and then across the subway line then south or taking the bus then going on the 501 street car. You would probably be able to get downtown faster by going to mimico and its 2 stops away if you do it that way. Guessing you are looking to invest and may not be living there but just something to keep in mind. If you look at the past sales of Zorra which is a condo nearby where this is being built you will notice a 1 plus 1 and 2 bedroom that were in the 600-699 range last sold for 615k and 699k and a larger 2 bedroom (800-900) sq ft sold for 695k. Online it says the average price per sq ft is around $900. So the price they have Verge at I feel is a very good price point. Also regarding renting right now a 1 bedroom there seems to go for around 1800 and 2 bedrooms are at $2200 and up depending on the size of the unit. I do not know about the builder so that would be something to consider.
I'm fairly confident in Riocan's ability to complete the project (i.e. not cancel) as they are one of the largest REITs. Lack of transit is the real knock on this, I'm guessing most people who own or rent here have a car?

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